Umpiring Errors

[Daemon]

Bun and Cevno, you guys should sig your views on the UDRS so 'misunderstandings' are prevented.

 

[Neil Pickup]

I can tell you of at least several occasions, some involving me, some others, where the batsmen didn't feel what seemed like an obvious nick.

Agreed, from a keeper's perspective, batsmen can hit the cover off the bloody thing, be given not out because the umpire forgot to turn his hearing aid on, and then argue till they're blue in the face that they hit the ground in spite of playing a horizontal bat shot and being four feet off the ground...

 

[Cevno]

Bun and Cevno, you guys should sig your views on the UDRS so 'misunderstandings' are prevented.

Made it clear in several threads over and over. Any one with basic comprehension can understand. If people choose to not understand to engage in pissing contest,can't do much about it.......

 

[Furball]

arre yaar, read that again, I said plumb according to commentators and hawkeye. tragic!

more to the point, that's a very stupid and convenient bucketing of my thoughts with that of bccis's. i've argued it's the predictive element of hawkeye is what gets my goat. I am fully for the mat and actual tracking till point of impact.

I guess had we used mat and ordinary tracker, we'd have got a reversal, but nm......

So you don't like the predictive element but are quite happy to use it to claim a turner down lbw shout was a shocker? Make up your mind.

 

[Cevno]

Agreed, from a keeper's perspective, batsmen can hit the cover off the bloody thing, be given not out because the umpire forgot to turn his hearing aid on, and then argue till they're blue in the face that they hit the ground in spite of playing a horizontal bat shot and being four feet off the ground...

yep. That was my point as the batsman have something, to gain there. But When it is the opposite as with Morgan there is no motive to imagine a edge because he has everything to lose.

 

[GIMH]

First of all,don't compare me with your crazy,stupid love of Morgan.Secondly,It didn't need to go at right angles and even you admitted after the snicko replay and Nasser hussain(ex England captain) and Alan wilkins were both convinced there was no clear evidence.
And there is no way any, technology can be better than the batsman himself.have you seriously played any cricket? There is no way you can bring one up and not the other,and that is why i brought Pietersen one up here to expose the hypocrisy. Neither be included....

I watched in work yesterdya, on mute. Glanced up and saw snicko and was like eh.

All replays since have been conclusive. There is daylight between bat and ball.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Thread went to pot pretty quickly, eh? Bloody hell.

Cricinfo commentary seems to think that Morgan was under the impression he had been given out LBW, and thus couldn't review it. I didn't see it live, but could that possibly have been the case?

He's talking about the Dhoni one.

As for the Morgan thing, I said in the thread that I'm not entirely sure that would have been overturned, but this stuff about "Morgan thought he hit it, so he must have hit it?" Please.

At the time Morgan definitely didn't look chuffed with the decision, so I suspect cricinfo might be right.

After the event Morgan might have said something politic about thinking he'd hit it so he didn't look a total chump by not reviewing it.

Definitely an error tho, as was Bowden not giving Swann LBW late on when he was patently stone dead.

That's 1-1 in my book; never mind the bollocks, to borrow an expression from somewhere I forget.

 

[Cevno]

Neither of the decisions (Pietersen or Morgan) were so blatantly wrong, like the Chanderpaul one, to deserve so much argument/discussion IMHO. Can't believe such a big deal is being made out of it. Both could have gone either way.

Agree. But people here are adamant that both could have only gone in England's favor and it is apparently biased to say otherwise.

 

[GIMH]

It's not a case of 'could've' when you're discussing what actually happened

 

[Furball]

Agree. But people here are adamant that both could have only gone in England's favor and it is apparently biased to say otherwise.

Pietersen quite obviously didn't hit it. Unless you believe Dhoni can defy the laws of physics when he bowls.

 

[Cevno]

Thread went to pot pretty quickly, eh? Bloody hell.





At the time Morgan definitely didn't look chuffed with the decision, so I suspect cricinfo might be right.

After the event Morgan might have said something politic about thinking he'd hit it so he didn't look a total chump by not reviewing it.

Definitely an error tho, as was Bowden not giving Swann LBW late on when he was patently stone dead.

That's 1-1 in my book; never mind the bollocks, to borrow an expression from somewhere I forget.

So he couldn't be not chuffed about getting out on 0 in a crucial match? Cmon now that is making blatant excuses to not even trust the batsman's word. Besides even in the most hypothetical circumstances ,that were the case ,how is it a umpiring error when it was the batsman's mistake?

 

[BoyBrumby]

So he couldn't be not chuffed about getting out on 0 in a crucial match? Cmon now that is making blatant excuses to not even trust the batsman's word. Besides even in the most hypothetical circumstances ,that were the case ,how is it a umpiring error when it was the batsman's mistake?

Yeah, that could well be the case.

The fact remains that he didn't hit it tho, so he and the umpire were wrong.

Can't be any clearer.

 

[Spark]

Far more interesting is the question as to why, in such a big, important series, the umpires are not Aleem Dar and Simon Taufel. Thought that would be a given.

 

[hang on]

good point, spark.

as an aside, quite some verbal contortionism and mind reading on here to explain why that decision was an error when the batsman himself said he hit it. let's apply occam's razor and take the simple explanation. he hit it. and walked without any fuss, forget about drsing when given.

 

[Bun]

Yeah, that could well be the case.

The fact remains that he didn't hit it tho, so he and the umpire were wrong.

Can't be any clearer.

Morgan & Ump > BB watching on tv

 

[Cevno]

Maybe he wants to concentrate on IPL and T20 cricket and wants to be dropped from the test team

 

[Bun]

Maybe he wants to concentrate on IPL and T20 cricket and wants to be dropped from the test team

England, Bangalore all should mean tha same to him tbh

 

[BoyBrumby]

Morgan & Ump > BB watching on tv

Hotspot & slow motion pictures > the human eye.

Verifiably and demonstably.

Now scurry back under your bridge, there's a good chap.

 

[Bun]

Hotspot & slow motion pictures > the human eye.

Verifiably and demonstably.

Now scurry back under your bridge, there's a good chap.

You're a good man..

 

[hang on]

Hotspot & slow motion pictures > the human eye.

Verifiably and demonstably.

Now scurry back under your bridge, there's a good chap.

bang on about the human eye bit but didn't morgan feel the nick? he's hardly seeing it.