Martin Crowe has Mid Life Crisis (and may well pull it off)

[benchmark00]

DWTA.

There's more to domestic FC cricket than trying to groom Test players.

And if there's a young Martin Crowe out there waiting to get his chance, he'll get his chance soon enough, regardless.

You're definitely talking from a County Cricket perspective, where there are a plethora of teams, and they use overseas players. I agree the main focus of County Cricket probably isn't grooming young players for national duties considering how many overseas ring ins they have, however in Australia, and one can only imagine it's the same case in NZ because there are also fewer teams, the predominant focus is on developing players for potential national duties.

Marketing opportunities aren't all bad. Raising the profile of the domestic game can only be a good thing. For one thing, it might help to attract the next Martin Crowe to want to play cricket in the first place.

Well for starters, Martin Crowe isn't going to get young people who haven't watched cricket before through the gates, the marketing would be aimed at the older generation who grew up watching him play, so that's a moot point.

benchmark00 is greg chappell and i collect my $10

How?



At the end of the day, everyone is a custodian of the team they play for, and they should be judged on a simple criteria: Is the team in a stronger position at the end of their time there than it was at the start?

In this case, it would be definitely no.

 

[tooextracool]

No doubt, but think about it.

Say there's a decision between two players who are producing close to equal output. One a young batsman, untested and unheard of. And then Martin Crowe. The administrators are going to push for Crowe for the marketing opportunities he will create, even if they wouldn't admit it.

That would be a travesty itbt.

Id argue that you haven't posed a realistic question. If there is a potential Martin Crowe waiting in the wings, the bottom line is that he wouldn't be competing against a 48 year old in the first place, he'd eventually make the cut regardless.

I understand your concerns, however, I think in every domestic system there are only a handful of potential test match prospects. The reality is that the rest are either county pros or fillers who are forever destined to roam the hallowed grounds of the NZ domestic circuit. With the possible exception of said filler, Martin Crowe playing domestic cricket should not really have any real effect on anything else.

 

[benchmark00]

Id argue that you haven't posed a realistic question. If there is a potential Martin Crowe waiting in the wings, the bottom line is that he wouldn't be competing against a 48 year old in the first place, he'd eventually make the cut regardless.

I understand your concerns, however, I think in every domestic system there are only a handful of potential test match prospects. The reality is that the rest are either county pros or fillers who are forever destined to roam the hallowed grounds of the NZ domestic circuit. With the possible exception of said filler, Martin Crowe playing domestic cricket should not really have any real effect on anything else.

Not every good player was great through the ranks. Improvement is what makes a good player.

I was being a touch facetious with the Martin Crowe issue, but say Martin Crowe is instead keeping out a young player who could potentially have a great career for Auckland? Instead stifling his improvement by two years.

There is no way this is beneficial for anyone other than Crowe's ego. In fact, if I was an Auckland supporter I'd be embarrassed if it was even considered.

 

[Flem274*]

Crowe should move to Northern Districts. They need batsmen for when Williamson and Styris are away and then he wouldn't have to face the ND attack.

 

[tooextracool]

Not every good player was great through the ranks. Improvement is what makes a good player.

I was being a touch facetious with the Martin Crowe issue, but say Martin Crowe is instead keeping out a young player who could potentially have a great career for Auckland? Instead stifling his improvement by two years.

There is no way this is beneficial for anyone other than Crowe's ego. In fact, if I was an Auckland supporter I'd be embarrassed if it was even considered.

Mate there are 5 additional batting spots available in the same Martin Crowe infringed side. In addition, there are what, 5 other domestic sides, for which said batsman can contemplate making a move to? What is the difference between Martin Crowe playing for Auckland and Ravi Bopara turning out for Auckland?

 

[Blaze 18]

Crowe apparently said "if Ganguly can do it anyone can"

 

[benchmark00]

Mate there are 5 additional batting spots available in the same Martin Crowe infringed side. In addition, there are what, 5 other domestic sides, for which said batsman can contemplate making a move to? What is the difference between Martin Crowe playing for Auckland and Ravi Bopara turning out for Auckland?

So a whole 35 spots minus the fillers (considerable amount) to build the foundation of New Zealand cricket upon?

Sounds ripping.

 

[Athlai]

Last season Auckland's batting was absolutely woeful in first class cricket, pretty much all of their young bucks are either flat track bullies or limited overs specialists.

 

[Flem274*]

Auckland need to pick Neesham /hype

 

[SteveNZ]

In a hypothetical, if Martin Crowe scored truckloads of club runs and made the Auckland side - any youngster he was keeping out obviously hadn't earned his place yet. And if you look at the pitiful amounts of runs the Aces scored in four-day cricket last season, that means they probably weren't worthy.

Saying there is no winner apart from Crowe's ego is rubbish. Maybe it will prompt the Aces batsmen to pull their fingers out after a heartless effort last season. Champs League money-spinner booked, one-dayers won..then they put in cricket's equivalent of clock watching for two months.

And doesn't one of, if not the finest, batsman in NZ's history bring a level of experience and passion that could benefit a young and obviously needy Aces line-up? My oath it does.

Good on him. Good on him for doing this - not wondering if he could make it. Good on him for working his arse off with little more than a promise of club cricket. Good on him for making a news story that is worth getting in behind. Good on him for breathing a bit of life and excitement into club cricket.

And those who are saying 'midlife crisis', slagging him off etc...good luck in senior D's this coming season.

 

[SteveNZ]

He'll probably get munro's spot.

A batting all-rounder who comes in at 7? Probably not, no.

Incidentally, what's with that quote?

 

[Smudge]

Crowe has a bat earlier this week.

http://tvnz.co.nz/cricket-news/unexpected-reunion-crowe-4250447/video

 

[centurymaker]

Crowe has a bat earlier this week.

VIDEO: Crowe back in the nets | News Video

Looked alright.
He should do well for his club at least.

 

[Hurricane]

A batting all-rounder who comes in at 7? Probably not, no.

Incidentally, what's with that quote?

Quote is in good fun - thought it was a good interaction between us. I will take it down if you prefer.

 

[TT Boy]

Physically he looks no worse than when Craig McMillan was playing for New Zealand. Wish him all the best.

 

[Top_Cat]

heh, get the feeling Crowe's thinking if he was using one of the new GM's back in the day, he wouldn't be worried about chasing 20k runs now!

 

[vcs]

WAFG.

NZ should bring him back for a JAMODI series just like SL have done with Jayasuriya.

 

[Nate]

Keen to watch him play against something other than half-volleys.

Want him to succeed.

 

[marc71178]

WAFG.

NZ should bring him back for a JAMODI series just like SL have done with Jayasuriya.

Would the NZ prime minister order it then?

 

[NZTailender]

Would back him over McIntosh tbh.