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Bun

Banned
Just a couple of games in summer against Sri Lanka and you think he's struggling? Sometimes, coming after a long break, a player may need some time to get into the groove.

And I didn't see that knock in Ashes, so I wouldn't comment. I saw KP yesterday after about 1.5 yrs or so and he looked like the old one. Laxman is not a touch player; he always seems to bat with effortless grace even if he scores 20.

But with touch and confidence players, this thing (visual appearance) can mean a lot. If people here feel that KP would have a better series, I certainly wouldn't call it an outrageous claim.

I mean, it's not as if someone is selecting Steven Smith ahead of Laxman. :laugh:
I am still unable to grasp the logic of how a "out of form touch player trying to rediscover his touch by making a pleasing on the eye 85 against a popgun attack" can be expected to perform better than "a pleasing on the eye player, in top form over last 2 years" :wacko::wacko:

Anyways I need to sleep now. ciao.
 

zaremba

Cricketer Of The Year
So what's your take on Laxman having more 100s than KP in the last 18 months?
My point is that Laxman has 2 hundreds in 2 years which doesn't exactly count as unanswerable form. Which you would appreciate had you read my post. And KP was one run short of a 2nd hundred last year which makes the difference pretty meaningless.

In case it's giving you ants in your pants, btw, I'm not suggesting that Laxman isn't a fine player. You needn't take it quite so personally.
 

Outswinger@Pace

International 12th Man
I am still unable to grasp the logic of how a "out of form touch player trying to rediscover his touch by making a pleasing on the eye 85 against a popgun attack" can be expected to perform better than "a pleasing on the eye player, in top form over last 2 years" :wacko::wacko:

Anyways I need to sleep now. ciao.
Logic and a gut-feel go a long way in making many of life's decisions. Have a good sleep! :cool:
 

Bun

Banned
My point is that Laxman has 2 hundreds in 2 years which doesn't exactly count as unanswerable form. Which you would appreciate had you read my post. And KP was one run short of a 2nd hundred last year which makes the difference pretty meaningless.

In case it's giving you ants in your pants, btw, I'm not suggesting that Laxman isn't a fine player. You needn't take it quite so personally.
conveniently ignoring that their averages in the same periods are 67 and 40 respectively?
 

zaremba

Cricketer Of The Year
conveniently ignoring that their averages in the same periods are 67 and 40 respectively?
You asked about hundreds, in particular my take on Laxman's enormous tally of 2 against KP's tally of 1 (double) plus a 99, and that's precisely what I answered. If you want to change your ground again, that's fine.

The broader points are answered in O@P's posts which you would do well to read.
 

four_or_six

Cricketer Of The Year
Calm it down guys please. People are allowed to have different opinions without pages of outrage. And also there's no need to accuse others of trolling - if you have a problem with posting please report it instead.
 

zaremba

Cricketer Of The Year
Calm it down guys please. People are allowed to have different opinions without pages of outrage. And also there's no need to accuse others of trolling - if you have a problem with posting please report it instead.
Apologies for suggesting that bun's posting verged on trolling.

Fully agree that a smidgeon of respect for others' opinions would go a long way here.
 

centurymaker

Cricketer Of The Year
lets just add that match winning 96 in duban to laxman's tally
and that match saving 91, where he was given out LBW off an inside edge, against nz late last year,

4 to 2. :ph34r:
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
FWIW I'd be taking Laxman ahead of Pietersen if I were selecting a combined XI.

It's nice to see KP's form sprouting the green shoots of recovery, but he did still manage to piss away what looked a nailed on ton against an attack that's flattered by comparisons with pop guns.

However I don't think it's outrageous to suggest KP could be picked ahead of Laxman (let's not forget that VVS's own coach selected a tyro Pietersen ahead of Graham Thorpe, a man of different MO but very similar vintage and quality to Laxman, for the 2005 Ashes) as I wouldn't think it disgraceful to take (say) Gambhir ahead of Cook.

Honest man can differ, etc...
 
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silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
FWIW I'd be taking Laxman ahead of Pietersen if I were selecting a combined XI.

It's nice to see KP's form sprouting the green shoots of recovery, but he did still manage to piss away what looked a nailed on ton against an attack that's flattered by comparisons with pop guns.

However I don't think it's outrageous to suggest KP could be picked ahead of Laxman (let's not forget that VVS's own coach selected a tyro Pietersen ahead of Graham Thorpe, a man of different MO but very similar vintage and quality to Laxman, for the 2005 Ashes) as I wouldn't think it disgraceful to take (say) Gambhir ahead of Cook.

Honest man can differ, etc...
IMO it's reasonable to pick KP over Laxman over a career - they're close. I just personally think VVS is the clear winner right now.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
IMO it's reasonable to pick KP over Laxman over a career - they're close. I just personally think VVS is the clear winner right now.
Yeah, clear winner might be stretching it, but he'd get my nod anyway. Cricket isn't played in a vacuum. I assumed the selections were for a composite test side based in the here and now.
 

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