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Dhoni Vs Gilchrist in ODIs.

Dhoni or Gilly, who is the better ODI cricketer?


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marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
The reason Dhoni is "not out" at the end is usually because India have won the game. From memory I think he's been not out in a losing cause once in his career. Maybe twice.

Don't know if you can really hold that against him, it is kinda the whole point :p.
Oh, don't get me wrong I don't hold it against him, but the 100 figure is IMO the real reason why these 2 can't be compared because in all honesty I can't imagine there's been that many openers who are not out in a chase when winning unless the target is pathetic.
 

Bun

Banned
sigh for thr umpteenth time, dhoni scores more runs per innings than gilly, despite the latter getting almost always 50 ****ing overs possible to bat on...

I find that an incredible stat and shows how much of an effect that has given to this team. I wonder whats his contemporaries figures are also....
 

Bun

Banned
as expected hussay has per innings runs of 35.7 which is very good despite coming at usually lower down the order...

geez gilly sure is some bat agreed but he is way way overrated in odis.... he was definitely value as a keeper alone, and would walk into most sides, but aint an all time great one day player as come would like to make out.
 

Bun

Banned
ignoring stats jayawardene is a better one day batsman than steve waugh.

ignoring stats afridi is the most dangerous opener ever to grace odi cricket.

8-)
 

Top_Cat

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Too many people in this thread using stats, to paraphrase Andrew Lang, as a drunk uses a lamp-post, for support rather than illumination.

Once again, they're are little more than a guide even in Tests so in ODI's they're even more prone to bias. Use accordingly or you're wasting your time.

EDIT: For those who poo-poo using individual judgement, you really couldn't be more wrong. Aside from the fact that personal judgement does count as 'data' (qualitative), in doing serious statistical analysis, there are personal judgements which abound before you even perform analyses anyway which will affect the results. Whether the data are normal, which test to use, whether the output passes the smell test, etc. There's an entire branch of statistics (Bayesian) in which, far from being discouraged, its part of the process before every test you run to exercise personal judgement about what the distribution will likely look like or how probabilities will change when extra information is added. The rationale goes that all supposedly objective statistical tests which have been used/are still being used will, by design, produce incorrect results because they don't use personal judgement and should be replaced by their Bayesian equivalents.

It's far from being universally accepted but that's inertia, really. Can tell you now, as someone who's in the job market, the ability to do Bayesian statistics is popping up in just about every job outside of Australia and more within Australia every year. It's the wave of the future, man.
 
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TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
Dhoni is still underrated on CW as an ODI cricketer imo, but I'd still take Gilchrist.
We had a multi page thread a while back where Dhoni was considered as good if not better than Sir Viv in ODIs.
 

akilana

International 12th Man
Hard to understand how Dhoni is rated this high with only nine fifties outside of Asia and no hundred.
 

Bun

Banned
Hard to understand how Dhoni is rated this high with only nine fifties outside of Asia and no hundred.
haha outstanding, asia contains india, pak, sl and bang, and then minor centres like u a e,

about half of test playing nations in itself. and given the **** no. of odis these guys play among themselves, a higher prop will obviously be attributed to such perf,
 

robelinda

International Vice-Captain
Sreesanth won more World Cups than Lara and Ambrose and Walsh too. World Cup argument FAIL. Though Gilly actually played great in ALL THREE World Cup finals he's played in. Massive credit for doing it every time he got the opportunity.
 

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