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I find the suggestion that there are only four well ran clubs in the whole of England and the rest are grossly inept, quite frankly, laughable.
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Relegation: good thing or bad thing?
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Tom Halsey
International Coach
I'd go further and say Porto are one of the best teams in Europe at the moment. Probably top five, judging by this season.
Furball
Evil Scotsman
The clubs in the Premiership are spectacularly inept when it comes to financial management.
Furball
Evil Scotsman
In financial terms, they're a minnow though.
Furball
Evil Scotsman
And Everton got £30m for their troubles.Hang on, Rooney was part of the youth team of Everton right? That's pretty good youth development. Yet he's ended up at Manchester United.
Tom Halsey
International Coach
And Everton got paid quite a nice sum for it. The money they got paid could have paid for nearly five Hernandezs.Hang on, Rooney was part of the youth team of Everton right? That's pretty good youth development. Yet he's ended up at Manchester United.
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
How does that help your argument? The good teams have the money to buy the good players?
Why didn't Wigan offer them £$31m? Or West Ham? Or whomever else is always mid or bottom table?
Furball
Evil Scotsman
Because Wigan were a Championship club at the time.
Furball
Evil Scotsman
The point is that Everton can use that £30m to invest in better players.
Which they did, they finished 4th in the EPL the season after they sold Rooney.
By your logic teams like Porto wouldn't be able to survive because on average they've sold almost €60m of players a season.
Tom Halsey
International Coach
It helps our argument because Everton now had £30m to buy players with. As I said, that's five Hernandezs.
Wigan didn't offer that sort of money for two primary reasons. Firstly, they hadn't produced any Wayne Rooneys lately to raise the cash. Secondly, it would be utterly pointless even if they did have the money as the chances of Rooney wanting to go there are nil.
Furball
Evil Scotsman
Whilst money is obviously important, how you spend the money is just as important as how much money you've got.
If the Premiership table was purely down to how much money you spend on transfers, then Arsenal would struggle to finish in the top half of the table. The fact that Arsenal are constantly in the top 4 suggest that they're spending their resources more efficiently than the likes of Manchester City, Aston Villa, Liverpool, Newcastle etc.
There is a bigger correlation between wage spend and league position but even then it's not quite so clear cut - West Ham had the 6th biggest wage bill in the EPL yet finished dead last.
If the Premiership table was purely down to how much money you spend on transfers, then Arsenal would struggle to finish in the top half of the table. The fact that Arsenal are constantly in the top 4 suggest that they're spending their resources more efficiently than the likes of Manchester City, Aston Villa, Liverpool, Newcastle etc.
There is a bigger correlation between wage spend and league position but even then it's not quite so clear cut - West Ham had the 6th biggest wage bill in the EPL yet finished dead last.
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Dude, that is horse ****. Talent development takes more than one season to bear fruit.
It seems like you're just making up things to back up your point. The fact is, the EPL is NOT equal. That's a cold hard fact. Argue that you like it not being equal, whatever, just don't have the audacity to argue that it is equal.
Patto is the only one who has come up with a good argument, i.e. He likes seeing the top couple of teams have all of the best players because it makes for a higher quality match.
Furball
Evil Scotsman
I haven't once argued that the EPL is equal. Although it does have more equitable distribution of revenue than virtually every other major European league.
Tom Halsey
International Coach
You seem to have comprehension issues, no-one in this thread has claimed it is equal, at any point, indeed GF has just said that money is "obviously important". It's obviously way harder without money but there are plenty of examples to show that money isn't the be all and end all.
You've also misinterpreted him re: Everton coming 4th. Obviously talent development takes many seasons, however the act of selling Rooney and buying some other players can be done in one summer. This they did in 2004, and they came 4th the following season. It's not that difficult.
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So people concede the competition is unequal, and never will be equal, yet still think it's a good system?
Righto.
Righto.
marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
DWTA. Aside from the "class of 92" they've not really developed that much more great talent, if any.
marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
Look at the debt levels of English clubs, you'd soon find it's more than a mere suggestion.
Furball
Evil Scotsman
How is the AFL any more equal? Surely there's inequalities between the best and worst teams in any given season?
Nate
You'll Never Walk Alone
Actually sums up my thoughts quite succinctly.
Fwiw, I love watching all sides in the Prem and the Championship (held a relegation flat party), and I thoroughly enjoyed the League One and Two games that were shown/involved Tranmere.
I don't know if it's the history, or maybe even the presentation, but nothing comes close to the Premier League for me. The best competition in the world.