*Official* - Road to India in England 2011

[Cricket_God]

Bun pulling out some classics here

Sree better than Tremlett? Funniest thing since you said you were competent in the English language. ****.

nah.
Sree has more experience than tremlett and has done well overseas he may average 35 but that is due to bowling on flat pitches in subcontinent,fact is he has taken 5 wicket hauls and helped india win matches abroad where as chris does not play regularly for england and just got a break in ashes.

 

[Cricket_God]

Tremlett's a far better test bowler than Sreesanth. More accurate plus steeper bounce. There's really no argument. Tremlett outbowled him hands down 4 years ago and is much improved since. Sree's at best plateaued

I doubt many would take Sharma over Broad either.

you do not get wickets by bowling back off length nowadays except against bangladesh,
tremlet will do a holding job in english conditions ,sreesanth bowls a fuller length and can swing it out,he has improved from last english tour,he edges tremlett in my opinion.

 

[morgieb]

Do the English posters here agree that Morgan is one of the best six English (...) batsmen at the moment? Seemed a bit iffy in the Pakistan series.

Obviously I'm not English, but do the Poms really have anyone better? Because I can't really see anyone who shouting out for test selection, and they're probably too conservative to pick Taylor.

 

[hang on]

(Tremlett) Has a Macca-sque style about him....

slightly, only slightly, mind, over the top, perhaps, apart from the fact that they 'are' of very similar build?

 

[Teja.]

slightly, only slightly, mind, over the top, perhaps, apart from the fact that they 'are' of very similar build?

Nah, It wasn't a comparison on ability or anything, just a comment on bowling style. It's like saying Riaz appears similar to Waqar as an ODI bowler, not that I expect the former to take 400 wickets @ 20.

Tremlett, like McGrath, on pitches with movement and bounce is ridiculously hard to play and similar to McGrath, in pitches with not much bounce he's still a damn good bowler due to his accuracy. The extent of difference in 'good-ness' is definitely open to question but the similarity is there , IMHO.

IIRC, Warne said Tremmers has the ability to become the best fast bowler in the world.

 

[hang on]

i realized but just couldn't resist!

but do u really see a similarity in their bowling styles?



oops, just realized....u meant mcgrath. and there i was thinking about marshall! and hence the barb about the similar builds.

cross purposes.

 

[Howe_zat]

Morgan's FC record hardly shows him to be much of an expert even against mediocre attacks. He bats in division 2, remember.

The question would be whether you consider FC performance or ODI performance a better indicator of Test success. I happen to think the former, so I'd quite like to see Hildreth or Taylor picked. If we were planning a touring party, I'd sit easier with Morgan.

I can still see the argument for Morgan though. He's already performed repeatedly, and with an excellent temperant, at the highest level of cricket, and a change in format is not something that usually fazes a top batsman. Yes, he looked uneasy against Pakistan but which batsman didn't, besides Trott? In the mean time he still managed a Test century. So it's not all bad news.

That's right folks: I have no strong opinion one way or the other. Fear me.

 

[Teja.]

Hildreth deserves a test cap much much more than Morgan, IMO.

 

[morgieb]

I can see the arguments for Hildy, but most of his runs come on roads.

Then again, most test match pitches are roads, so it isn't that different imo

 

[BoyBrumby]

you do not get wickets by bowling back off length nowadays except against bangladesh,
tremlet will do a holding job in english conditions ,sreesanth bowls a fuller length and can swing it out,he has improved from last english tour,he edges tremlett in my opinion.

Not from what I've seen of him, he hasn't. Bowled his usual mix of tripe and jaffas versus SA in conditions that are likely to suit his style of bowling.

Take a gander at his year by year record. Doesn't scream "improved" to me.

 

[smash84]

Nah, It wasn't a comparison on ability or anything, just a comment on bowling style. It's like saying Riaz appears similar to Waqar as an ODI bowler, not that I expect the former to take 400 wickets @ 20.

Tremlett, like McGrath, on pitches with movement and bounce is ridiculously hard to play and similar to McGrath, in pitches with not much bounce he's still a damn good bowler due to his accuracy. The extent of difference in 'good-ness' is definitely open to question but the similarity is there , IMHO.

IIRC, Warne said Tremmers has the ability to become the best fast bowler in the world.

Riaz looks good. He has a brilliant yorker and can can take the ball away from the right hander. If he can develop the one that comes into the right hander he could be lethal. His ODI SR is Waqar-esque

What I have seen of Tremlett and Sree I definitely think Tremlett is ahead of Sree. Sree is way too inconsistent with his line and length IMO

 

[Kylez]

You only have to watch Tremlett bowl to see his calibre and what he is capable of. I don't care if he has played 7 or 8 tests, I've seen him bowl and his pyhsique and he looks bloody impressive.

 

[centurymaker]

You only have to watch Tremlett bowl to see his calibre and what he is capable of. I don't care if he has played 7 or 8 tests, I've seen him bowl and his pyhsique and he looks bloody impressive.

Sharma started off well didn;t he?

 

[Kylez]

Sharma started off well didn;t he?

Yeah, but they are different cricketers.

 

[Manee]

You only have to watch Tremlett bowl to see his calibre and what he is capable of. I don't care if he has played 7 or 8 tests, I've seen him bowl and his pyhsique and he looks bloody impressive.

Agreed. Tremlett has 'it', whatever 'it' is, to have a long and successful Test career - injuries pending.

 

[Daemon]

He's got a really good action, very repeatable, which is key to consistency especially in test cricket.

 

[Kylez]

He's got a really good action, very repeatable, which is key to consistency especially in test cricket.

Agreed. Tremlett has 'it', whatever 'it' is, to have a long and successful Test career - injuries pending.

Agreed.

Unlike Sreesanth, who I believe has some technical issues with his bowling action, which can lead to inconsistency and we all know inconsistency is a big part of Sreesanth's game.

 

[Teja.]

Sreesanth actually has a beautiful bowling action in one meaning of the word. What really ****s him is his seam position, can be the best seam position in cricket at times but most of the time it wavers away. Reckon it's one of the main reasons for his inconsistency. When Sree gets his seam position right though, He bowls pretty damn well.

 

[centurymaker]

Agreed.

Unlike Sreesanth, who I believe has some technical issues, which can lead to inconsistency and we all know inconsistency is a big part of Sreesanth's game.

mental issues.

 

[Kylez]

Sreesanth actually has a beautiful bowling action in one meaning of the word. What really ****s him is his seam position, can be the best seam position in cricket at times but most of the time it wavers away. Reckon it's one of the main reasons for his inconsistency. When Sree gets his seam position right though, He bowls pretty damn well.

I disagree. I think Sreesanth doesn't use his non bowling arm enough in his bowling action at times. What I mean by this, is that I think he doesn't bring his non bowling arm up high enough and therefore he can't pull it down with much power and as a result of this, he loses pace and momentum. Sreesanth's non bowling arm also tends to fall away from his body as well and this can result in him spraying the ball around.