2015 World Cup: 10 teams and no associates

[wellAlbidarned]

Utterly terrible idea.
Isn't the champions trophy already for the elite teams to play for?

^Some people need to be reminded of this.

The point of the world cup isn't to be some uber-refined best-of-the-best tournament, it's also supposed to be chance for us to see what countries we don't usually see in action have to offer.

 

[abmk]

12 teams is the correct number IMO. Hope that is what happens

 

[abmk]

AWTA. Seemed really strange to see the big teams only getting such a small amount of time to themselves, and apart from a couple of close matches the group stage wa sonce again a complete waste of time, and very boring. Best world cup ever???? Whoever said that must have taken up watching cricket on the day of the final. Was an ordinary world cup, but they mostly are anyway. Like many other cricket fans I too think the 92 WC was pretty awesome, the format was excellent and it was some spectacle.

absolutely disagree . Whether it was the best world cup ever is arguable. But IMO it was an excellent world cup. Lit up right from England's 1st game ( vs netherlands ) ....picked up even more after India's encounter vs England in B'lore

Considering you don't like ODIs that much and don't/didn't watch it as much as say quite a few of the others have, not sure how you can have that strong an opinion saying it was a very boring world cup !?

BTW wasn't the 92 WC ruined to an extent by stupid rain rules !? The media of today would've been all over the place about what happened in the 92 semi b/w England and SA , you wouldn't hear the end of it !

 

[vic_orthdox]

absolutely disagree . While it may not have been the best world cup ever, it was an excellent world cup. Lit up right from England's 1st game ( vs netherlands ) ....picked up even more after India's encounter vs England in B'lore

Considering you don't like ODIs that much and don't/didn't watch it as much as say quite a few of the others have, not sure how you can have that strong an opinion saying it was very boring world cup !?

The point is that after you had a good game, the next game would be an ordinary encounter such as Kenya vs Australia.

The Super 6/8 idea is a system that I think works best, as long as all the strong teams hold up their end of the bargain which they didn't do in 2003 and especially 2007.

Champions League should be four groups of three, narrowed down into quarter finals.

 

[abmk]

The point is that after you had a good game, the next game would be an ordinary encounter such as Kenya vs Australia.

The Super 6/8 idea is a system that I think works best, as long as all the strong teams hold up their end of the bargain which they didn't do in 2003 and especially 2007.

Champions League should be four groups of three, narrowed down into quarter finals.

I'm not saying the format of the present WC was the best/ideal one. But there were quite a few excellent matches.

I think 2003 was ok as far as top teams are concerned. 2007 format was tricky, one bad game against a minnow in the group stages and you could be gone, like India and Pak.

Regarding the no of teams, I already posted that ideal number would be 12

( Kenya and Canada contributed almost nothing good to this WC IMO except perhaps for Hiral Patel caning the Aus fast bowlers )

 

[howardj]

The point is that after you had a good game, the next game would be an ordinary encounter such as Kenya vs Australia.
The Super 6/8 idea is a system that I think works best, as long as all the strong teams hold up their end of the bargain which they didn't do in 2003 and especially 2007.

Champions League should be four groups of three, narrowed down into quarter finals.

Had no momentum at all, did it? You'd watch a cracking match...which was then bookended by three or four ordinary ones.

For mine, there should be an absolute maximum of 12 teams and a Super Six/Eight format where the points you accrue in the preliminary stage against other Super Six/Eight contestants, are carried through to the Super Eights.

In this tournament, we just had a whole month of cricket (punctuated with the odd good game here and there) and then carried nothing from that month into the the next stage.

 

[four_or_six]

Super six will never happen again, it needs to be guaranteed that India qualify for financial reasons.

Urgh, I'm still so angry about this. Will be really hoping Ireland beat us in August.

 

[robelinda]

Super Sixes stage was brilliant, a much longer time spent playing matches between the better teams, it ended up being great viewing. I'd wager that if India wasnt so crap in 2007 the SS stage would still be here. The rest of the world shouldnt suffer because of one team.

 

[GIMH]

Does anyone know if any of the well-known Dutch or Irish cricketers are on twitter? I've tweeted Jimmy, Broad and KP to try and get them to sign the petition and retweet the link but in all honesty I imagine their contracts prevent them from doing so.

 

[Howe_zat]

Does anyone know if any of the well-known Dutch or Irish cricketers are on twitter? I've tweeted Jimmy, Broad and KP to try and get them to sign the petition and retweet the link but in all honesty I imagine their contracts prevent them from doing so.

"You're in my world now, not your world..."

Most of the Ireland side is there:

John Mooney - @Johnboy636
Will Porterfield - @purdy34;
Paul Stirling - @stirlo90;
George Dockrell - @georgedockrell
Boyd Rankin - @boydrankin;
Trent Johnston - @Green23;
Gary Wilson - @gwilson14;
NoB - @niallnobiobrien;
KoB - @donk84;


Could only find one Dutch cricketer, Edgar Schiferli - @chivers70.

 

[Daemon]

Petition votes have increased by about 400 since I last checked 15 hours ago. Not too shabby I guess..I'm going to go post this on FB too.

 

[Howe_zat]

Had no momentum at all, did it? You'd watch a cracking match...which was then bookended by three or four ordinary ones.

For mine, there should be an absolute maximum of 12 teams and a Super Six/Eight format where the points you accrue in the preliminary stage against other Super Six/Eight contestants, are carried through to the Super Eights.

In this tournament, we just had a whole month of cricket (punctuated with the odd good game here and there) and then carried nothing from that month into the the next stage.

Yeah, a great match like England-Ireland would be all messed up by some unimportant dross like Australia-NZ.

 

[four_or_six]

Does anyone know if any of the well-known Dutch or Irish cricketers are on twitter? I've tweeted Jimmy, Broad and KP to try and get them to sign the petition and retweet the link but in all honesty I imagine their contracts prevent them from doing so.

Could try to get Aggers or Vaughan onto it - they've posted quite angrily about the decision this morning...

 

[turnstyle]

That's a false comparison though, as at the Olympics you at least have to meet a minimum qualifying time regardless of what country you come from.

I appreciate though that people are likely to have different opinions to me on this.

It comes back to what you want the World Cup to be about.

For me, it is the pinnacle, the showpiece.

If I came from a non-member country however, my view would probably be different.

As being Aussie born as well, i can see why full member country's fans wouldn't really care. Your teams going to be there no matter what. You'll get to see them play 7-8 games. Whether they'll be good matches or not, that's up to you to decide.

With regards to qualifying. Qualifying for the 2015 World Cup had started a few weeks ago in each respective region's divisions 3 around the globe. For any of those teams to make the WC Qualifying tournament against the likes of Ireland etc, they basically have to win about 30 games in a row. Unlikely.. unless you're Afghanistan.

And this isn't something they just came up with overnight. The very first ICC trophy (qualifying tournament) was in 1979. An amateur but very promising team called Sri Lanka won that. Another amateur but very promising team won the following few after Sri Lanka were given full membership. Zimbabwe.

There needs to be a few changes, i agree. For instance the WC Qualifier needs to be held 6 months prior to the WC. Not 2 years like was the case for this cycle.

EDIT: Sorry, i'm on my high horse today. There are so many better arguments for their inclusion than against it. The only upside i can even remotely think for it is marketing and financial reasons. You can't say it's because of competitiveness. Zimbabwe were atrocious and i didn't see the Dutch being knocked over for 58 against the WI or losing by 10 wickets to Sri Lanka.

 

[atisha_ro]

well, this pretty much settles it. cricket stays an imperial colonial game forever.

at least in the baseball world cup (World Baseball Classic, with all the top pros) Holland can beat the Dominican all-star team, twice.

even the AFL has the common sense to get some semblance of a world cup, and the game seems to gain a lot of popularity in Europe due to regular Eurosport broadcasts.

rest in peace, cricket, in your tiny cutesy world.

 

[Daemon]

Ireland and Netherlands were also pretty consistent throughout IIRC. The only team to completely dominate them was South Africa.

Can't understand how a team that has the chance, albeit a small one, to beat any side in the world on their day will not be playing.

 

[Spark]

Apparently it's not going to be any shorter either. Seriously what's the point?

 

[IrishOpener]

Cricket: England try to gag Irish fury over exclusion - Other Sports, Sport - Independent.ie ...

 

[four_or_six]

Cricket: England try to gag Irish fury over exclusion - Other Sports, Sport - Independent.ie ...

An absolute disgrace. I really really hope Morgan comes out and says something - he's our best player and is in the most secure position of all the Irish cricketers

 

[GIMH]

Could try to get Aggers or Vaughan onto it - they've posted quite angrily about the decision this morning...

I tried Freddie too, he's tweeted loads about it. I imagine these guys get a lot of RT requests so it's a case of getting lucky I guess.