2015 World Cup: 10 teams and no associates

[turnstyle]

Another thing that totally skipped my mind was only one European team was beaten by 10 wickets. And it wasn't the Dutch or Irish

It's made me angry all day.

 

[IrishOpener]

Also a little thing I read online from Ireland's friend Mr.Lorgat,

Lorgat also said the ICC was pleased with the implementation of the Umpire Decision Referral System (UDRS) at the World Cup.

"DRS was successful. It has improved umpiring standards by more than five percent," Lorgat said. "There has been no blatant errors or no complaints from teams over decision that could have affected the outcome of the match."

tell that to William Porterfield and Gary Wilson...

 

[howardj]

Glad there are only 10 teams - World Cups should be showpieces, not drawn out tournaments full of rubbish games. Let's not look back with rose-coloured glasses...the World Cup just gone was largely full of rubbish games for the first month.

My only problem is that the last two spots should be the subject of some sort of a play-off between now and 2015. Zimbabwe for instance should not automatically be granted a spot in the 10.

 

[slugger]

Looks like it was the Australia and NZ boards which started the motion and then BCCI sealed it:-

Deutrom says 2015 hosts Australia and New Zealand were the prime movers behind the move back to a 10-team World Cup, which was the format back in 1992.

The Cricket Ireland chief believes that India then drove through the plan to restrict the 2015 competition to full-member countries, although he believes they were supported by a number of other nations.

On Tuesday, Cricket Australia chief James Sutherland described his country's schedule for this year's World Cup as "unsatisfactory".

"The Australian team had two seven-day breaks at one stage and during that period the only cricket they were playing was against minnow countries,'' said Sutherland.

"So from our point of view, we went a bit stale there in the middle. The decision to go to a 10-team competition is something we're very supportive of."


BBC Sport - Cricket Ireland to fight 2015 World Cup exclusion

This is stupid.. are they saying as a host nation they are so clueless to rectify a schedule that suits their team. (or all teams in general). that the best idea they came up with was to cull the teams involved. Im really starteding to wonder if these people have any basic concept of maths, planning and overall organising. dont sound like any managers I know.

 

[slugger]

signed petition.:

 

[turnstyle]

Glad there are only 10 teams - World Cups should be showpieces, not drawn out tournaments full of rubbish games. Let's not look back with rose-coloured glasses...the World Cup just gone was largely full of rubbish games for the first month.

My only problem is that the last two spots should be the subject of some sort of a play-off between now and 2015. Zimbabwe for instance should not automatically be granted a spot in the 10.

The Olympic games. Yeah, a bunch of **** athletes with only a few that could actually win gold. Let's **** them all off and just have Thorpie against Phelps.

No, seriously. It goes deeper than just your entertainment. You have to remember this is the pinnacle of a player's career. You're not just invited to turn up and play. You've gotta play your guts out through the divisions to get your 5 weeks in the sun. Without even a chance of a qualifier, what's the effin' point of playing in the paddocks of Jersey to get your country on the world stage. I was so impressed by Afghanistan's rise from nowhere. They're a seriously talented bunch. Whether or not it's just a generation of good cricketers we'll never know because people want just entertainment between whatever else is on the tele.

 

[slugger]

if you have a facebook page I would suggest you have a link to the petition, the number is quite low it needs to reach the 10s of thousand before its taken seriously, every method should be used to get people aware of it.

 

[howardj]

The Olympic games. Yeah, a bunch of **** athletes with only a few that could actually win gold. Let's **** them all off and just have Thorpie against Phelps.

No, seriously. It goes deeper than just your entertainment. You have to remember this is the pinnacle of a player's career. You're not just invited to turn up and play. You've gotta play your guts out through the divisions to get your 5 weeks in the sun. Without even a chance of a qualifier, what's the effin' point of playing in the paddocks of Jersey to get your country on the world stage. I was so impressed by Afghanistan's rise from nowhere. They're a seriously talented bunch. Whether or not it's just a generation of good cricketers we'll never know because people want just entertainment between whatever else is on the tele.

That's a false comparison though, as at the Olympics you at least have to meet a minimum qualifying time regardless of what country you come from.

I appreciate though that people are likely to have different opinions to me on this.

It comes back to what you want the World Cup to be about.

For me, it is the pinnacle, the showpiece.

If I came from a non-member country however, my view would probably be different.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

Dunno if it's just me, but the "WORLD" part is pretty important. It doesn't matter if they get anhialated, you've got to give them the ****ing CHANCE at least. Trimming it down to 10 nations is one thing. Taking out the qualifiers? ****ing ridiculous.

 

[howardj]

But not four weeks of the minnows sticking around...and then only one and half weeks exclusively set aside for the Big Boys.

It's the wrong balance, that's my main gripe.

 

[robelinda]

AWTA. Seemed really strange to see the big teams only getting such a small amount of time to themselves, and apart from a couple of close matches the group stage wa sonce again a complete waste of time, and very boring. Best world cup ever???? Whoever said that must have taken up watching cricket on the day of the final. Was an ordinary world cup, but they mostly are anyway. Like many other cricket fans I too think the 92 WC was pretty awesome, the format was excellent and it was some spectacle.

 

[juro]

Entire Irish WC squad caught in mass orgy with ICC member's wives

That'll be the next headline we see. Mark my words.

So they are getting screwed more than once?

 

[slugger]

But not four weeks of the minnows sticking around...and then only one and half weeks exclusively set aside for the Big Boys.

It's the wrong balance, that's my main gripe.

why beat around the bush, just have the top 6 ranked teams play in a 2nd yearly tournment. were the private little BIG BOYS CLUB can have its own little party.

oh wait australia use to do that what was it caalled the " world series" 1980 - 1998 usually consisted of 3 teams (why did they stop it )..

 

[KiWiNiNjA]

Glad there are only 10 teams - World Cups should be showpieces, not drawn out tournaments full of rubbish games. Let's not look back with rose-coloured glasses...the World Cup just gone was largely full of rubbish games for the first month.

My only problem is that the last two spots should be the subject of some sort of a play-off between now and 2015. Zimbabwe for instance should not automatically be granted a spot in the 10.

Agree with this.

There should be some sort of qualifying tournament for the last 4 places.
I know Zimbabwe is a full member, but getting an automatic spot ahead of some of the associates is sad.

Having 10 teams and less minnows is OK with me. But having those 10 teams set in stone 4 years out is just ridiculous.

 

[nightprowler10]

Gonna be rooting for Ireland in the next T20 WC. Imagine the egg on ICC's face if they win the whole thing, but won't be allowed to even have a stab at the ODI WC.

never felt so low about Cricket as I do now ...

 

[Athlai]

It's utterly ridiculous, Ireland is genuinely a team that can beat anyone on their day and they're being shut out? Total bull****.

 

[howardj]

why beat around the bush, just have the top 6 ranked teams play in a 2nd yearly tournment. were the private little BIG BOYS CLUB can have its own little party.

oh wait australia use to do that what was it caalled the " world series" 1980 - 1998 usually consisted of 3 teams (why did they stop it )..

Preferred model would be a two team format - best of 40 series.

WIth a play-off series in the event of a 20-all deadlock.

 

[silentstriker]

Did you do it via email? Be interesting to see what you get back, they do generally respond.
Good idea anyway and I will do the same.

I think as a forum we should seriously try and mobilise some sort of petition. I realise it's likely to be fruitless but still.

Anyone up for it and know the best way to go about it?

Signed with this:

"This is supposed to be a sport, and sport is all about merit. Ireland are the 10th ranked side, but because they don't have a vote or a deep pocketbook, another side automatically qualifies as the tenth member. You guys are disgraceful. You aren't fit enough to watch cricket, let alone administer it."

Don't think it will matter but I too am wondering if there is something we can do to be heard. Probably we won't, but this is utterly reprehensible. CA - who came out in strong support of this - need to be confronted. BCCI I'm sure also voted for this but they never say anything in public and are not accountable to anyone. Hopefully, the other boards are held accountable.

 

[GotSpin]

AWTA. Seemed really strange to see the big teams only getting such a small amount of time to themselves, and apart from a couple of close matches the group stage wa sonce again a complete waste of time, and very boring. Best world cup ever???? Whoever said that must have taken up watching cricket on the day of the final. Was an ordinary world cup, but they mostly are anyway. Like many other cricket fans I too think the 92 WC was pretty awesome, the format was excellent and it was some spectacle.

Probably because India won it at home...

There were some fantastic group matches but they meant nothing in the end.

 

[outbreak]

Utterly terrible idea.
To everyone saying it's a good idea as it shortens the drawn out tournament, the reports i read originally about ICC think about limiting the teams actually said the amount of games will stay the same or will be INCREASED. So chances are we will have less teams but more games.
The simplest way to have solved this is to stop being money hungry wankers and play multiple games on 1 day. The ICC said they didn't want to that this tournament as they wanted the maximum amount of money through broadcasting they could make.
I actually prefer watching an associate nation playing a top team (even if they lose you usually get to see how afew of the players you never see go) as opposed to watching the same teams that play each other throughout the year in 5 game tournaments playing each other once again.
Isn't the champions trophy already for the elite teams to play for?