Ricky Ponting steps down as Captain (Updated)

[Burgey]

Well tbf he said when he got home he'd consider his position. Probably wants to talk it over with his family.

 

[Spark]

How much of a push from CA is there to remove him? Every single report, whisper etc. I've heard for the last few years from the cricketing inner circle about the Aus team has been about how everyone idolises Ponting to an extent the public never have.

 

[pup11]

Why isn't Ponting seeing the writing on the wall? I think its obvious CA want him gone as captain. I'm truly shocked that he's defying it all. Unless he actually wants to be sacked rather than quit as he believes he'll have the public sentiment on his side?

I don't know how you can say that CA want Ponting gone, because if anything they have come out in recent times and backed him as the best man to lead Australia even after the worldcup.

The problem with Australian cricket is that because results aren't going the way they are suppossed to therefore people just want to see changes taking place, but they obviously don't care whether there are any decent replacments available or not.

Now every Australian critic wants Ponting to quit captaincy but nobody is game enough to come out and say who should then replace him as captain, because the fact of the matter is there are hardly any real contenders around.

Clarke is barely clinging to his place in the side, Haddin at the age of 33 at best is a stop-gap arrangement and Watson is considered a bit immature to take over captaincy, so if you look at it there aren't any guys around who can actually take the reins of this side and turn things around.

 

[Jono]

As if CA are going to come out publicly and not back their captain.

 

[Bun]

I don't know how you can say that CA want Ponting gone, because if anything they have come out in recent times and backed him as the best man to lead Australia even after the worldcup.

The problem with Australian cricket is that because results aren't going the way they are suppossed to therefore people just want to see changes taking place, but they obviously don't care whether there are any decent replacments available or not.

Now every Australian critic wants Ponting to quit captaincy but nobody is game enough to come out and say who should then replace him as captain, because the fact of the matter is there are hardly any real contenders around.

Clarke is barely clinging to his place in the side, Haddin at the age of 33 at best is a stop-gap arrangement and Watson is considered a bit immature to take over captaincy, so if you look at it there aren't any guys around who can actually take the reins of this side and turn things around.

whats wrong in trying out a change of personnel. surely it cant get worse than current state australian cricket is in.

 

[Bun]

As if CA are going to come out publicly and not back their captain.

ponting the cap has been walking on thin ice, they lost the ashes at home ffs, and now have been booted out of the wc, having beat just one test std team, nz, in it. surely if these arent strong reasons to withdraw him, what are

 

[Midwinter]

The argument that there are no other captaincy contenders is fatous.

There is only one person at a time who can be captain, so unless someone else is given a go there will never be another contender.

Lets stick the traditional way, pick the team first then pick the captain from the team.

If Ponting makes the team on merit fair enough, but his form has been poor for a while now and he should have been dropped during the Ashes tests .

Why he doesn't he see the writing on wall ? The answer could be that he is surrounded by people who depend on him and therefore are continually telling him how great he is. Wife, family, manager, coach, selectors etc

Greatest batsman since Bradman ? Don't think so.

 

[Burgey]

The argument that there are no other captaincy contenders is fatous.

There is only one person at a time who can be captain, so unless someone else is given a go there will never be another contender.

Lets stick the traditional way, pick the team first then pick the captain from the team.

If Ponting makes the team on merit fair enough, but his form has been poor for a while now and he should have been dropped during the Ashes tests .

Why he doesn't he see the writing on wall ? The answer could be that he is surrounded by people who depend on him and therefore are continually telling him how great he is. Wife, family, manager, coach, selectors etc

Greatest batsman since Bradman ? Don't think so.

He belongs in the argument, from an Australian POV.

 

[centurymaker]

He belongs in the argument, from an Australian POV.

Greg Chappell

 

[Burgey]

Greg Chappell

Yeah. So there's an argument. And Ponting belongs in it.

 

[pup11]

ponting the cap has been walking on thin ice, they lost the ashes at home ffs, and now have been booted out of the wc, having beat just one test std team, nz, in it. surely if these arent strong reasons to withdraw him, what are

I can stick my neck out and say that with the kind of players we have been picking no captain could have managed better results.

People just seem to be having a go at Ponting for everything but what about likes of Hilditch, Cox and Boon, their selections have been atrocious and have played a large part in Australia's dip in performance.

Also the lack of contenders to take up leadership reins from Ponting is a fact, most experienced Australian players are either on the wrong side of 30 or just struggling to hold onto their spot.

At the time when Ponting took over captaincy he along with Warne and Gilchrist emerged as prime candidates to replace Steve Waugh as captain, but in the present team you hardly see anyone with leadership qualities and that again shows lack of planning on the part of the Australian selection committee.

 

[Spark]

I seriously don't see the point of having Ponting hold on and on and on and on to the captaincy. It'll just be horribly counterproductive.

At the moment the two most obvious candidates to take over - Clarke and Watson - are both the perfect age to take over. Clarke has the leadership experience and proven tactical nous, Watson has the current form. There are arguments for or against both but we seriously have to move on or we'll just be left in a hole.

 

[Ikki]

I think even if Ponting thinks he has a lot to offer, he has to look towards Australia's future. He has to hand the reigns over eventually and it'd be far better for us if he at least helped the next captain in the initial phase of their tenure.

 

[biased indian]

who was the last austrlaian captian to continue playing after he lost captaincy....

Border, s waugh and taylor didnt rt ?...i am asking about full time captins and not satnd ins for series or a match

 

[robelinda]

Greg Chappell.

 

[Ikki]

Both the Chappell brothers stayed on even after their tenures as captains actually.

 

[vic_orthdox]

Why isn't Ponting seeing the writing on the wall? I think its obvious CA want him gone as captain. I'm truly shocked that he's defying it all. Unless he actually wants to be sacked rather than quit as he believes he'll have the public sentiment on his side?

Because the players still want him.

 

[Spark]

Yeah that makes sense. They idolise him from all reports.

 

[pup11]

Yeah that makes sense. They idolise him from all reports.

Well maybe because they realise there is no-one better to lead the side atm.

Australian team especially the test side is an absolute mess at present and I'm not too sure too many people are really ququeing up to take over the captaincy from Ponting.

The selectors basically just can't put a 'C' next to a player's name without taking the coach and rest of the important players under confidence and that's one of the reason why in Australian cricket a bloke is groomed for captaincy so that he can win over his team-mates over a period of time.

Unfortunately someone like Clarke who was earmarked for the top job seems to be struggling to both grow as a player or a prospective leader and CA doesn't have a plan B to fall back upon as there is hardly anyone else in the current squad who one could realistically see leading the side.

 

[Jono]

Because the players still want him.

Genuine question, when's the last time players have wanted the Australian captain gone?

I may be ignorant to previous history, but I can't imagine players wanted Waugh, Taylor and especially Border out.