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[Xuhaib]

There is no question that the best batsmen average more nowadays.. check out the averages of the likes of Watson, Dilshan, Amla, AB, Trott etc. in the last few years in ODI cricket. India and Pakistan pretty much play all their home ODIs on roads. The better bats and the advent of batting powerplays have led to plenty of ridiculous ODI innings as I pointed out in this thread. We certainly didn't see them on such a regular basis in the '90s. In '92, 250 was well above a par score.

yeah remember the telly's getting swithched off when Nzl got to 264 in the 92 semi.

 

[slugger]

yeah remember the telly's getting swithched off when Nzl got to 264 in the 92 semi.

telly's switched off??

 

[smash84]

telly's switched off??

yeah, during the lunch break

 

[ankitj]

Just on the subject of semis (ooer, missus, etc), it was pointed out yesterday that we made every single one up until 1992 and haven't made one since!

Yeah England's decline in ODIs has been sudden and complete. Any reasons why? I personally feel they've just failed to keep pace with the evolution that game has gone through and continues to.

 

[smash84]

Yeah England's decline in ODIs has been sudden and complete. Any reasons why? I personally feel they've just failed to keep pace with the evolution that game has gone through and continues to.

that is what I always thought too.

 

[Howe_zat]

Yeah England's decline in ODIs has been sudden and complete. Any reasons why? I personally feel they've just failed to keep pace with the evolution that game has gone through and continues to.

This is part of it. It's mostly that England still consider ODIs, even those in the World Cup to be inferior to Tests*, and test to use them as an area to blood young players or give the next captain a go. Everyone had this attitude in the 70s and 80s and England has never quite got past it, they have never really treated one-day cricket with all the importance that other sides do.

*Which of course reflects the attiudes of the fans, by and large. Personally, though I can get into the spirit of big tournaments when I want, I would take an unbeaten home summer or a tough away series win in Tests over a World Cup win, and something like the Ashes just doesn't compare.

 

[Jono]

Just try and win everything imo. At least everything major.

 

[vcs]

This is part of it. It's mostly that England still consider ODIs, even those in the World Cup to be inferior to Tests*, and test to use them as an area to blood young players or give the next captain a go. Everyone had this attitude in the 70s and 80s and England has never quite got past it, they have never really treated one-day cricket with all the importance that other sides do.

*Which of course reflects the attiudes of the fans, by and large. Personally, though I can get into the spirit of big tournaments when I want, I would take an unbeaten home summer or a tough away series win in Tests over a World Cup win, and something like the Ashes just doesn't compare.

Agree. Though I can see signs of that traditional somewhat condescending attitude towards limited overs cricket changing under Strauss and Flower's leadership, and the T20 WC win.

 

[Xuhaib]

when I see this thread I get reminded of.

 

[smash84]

when I see this thread I get reminded of.

why does this thread remind you of naked men???

 

[Hurricane]

6 times

 

[slugger]

hahaha... we cant even call nz semi final chokers... cause they never go into a game as favorites.

 

[Flem274*]

I reckon they choked last time out tbh. Bond/Vettori vs Murali/Vaas is an even contest.

 

[smash84]

simply losing without having any distinct advantage over the opposition isn't exactly choking IMO

 

[Athlai]

Perennial bridesmaids tbh.

 

[smash84]

lol.......now that is a good term

 

[Hurricane]

Good spelling too.

 

[Athlai]

English literature degree comes in handy for the first time this year.