No Hot Spot

[Agent Nationaux]

Don't know if anyone has heard, but there won't be any hotspot, if this news is true then congratulations ICC you have managed to **** up again.

No Hot Spot for World Cup - CRICKETNDTV.com

 

[KiWiNiNjA]

That's bloody ridiculous.

Same sort of **** as the NZ-PAK series.

 

[Daemon]

It's like they want the UDRS to fail.

 

[smash84]

Wtf

 

[Agent Nationaux]

I think it's because the company which provides hit spot cameras has had enough. They wanted the ICC to use it for all matches, just like the tennis grand slams. Because the ICC has been skirting around the issue and acting like a little girl in order to please the BCCI, the company doesn't want the ICC using it.

 

[straw man]

Just saw this on cricinfo and am very annoyed.

The article states that 'the company who makes Hot Spot do not wish to supply the technology'. That seems fairly unlikely - what business wouldn't want its product to be used at a World Cup final? More likely the ICC is being difficult with the terms of the arrangement or is refusing to pay for it.

This continual delaying and dragging of feet when it comes to technology and the UDRS is pathetic, even by the standards of a ****box organisation like the ICC.

 

[benchmark00]

Hot spot is **** anyway. Very flawed piece of technology, unless you want to see if someone has middled a cover drive.

Spend the money on getting snicko up to speed imo.

 

[Daemon]

Hot spot is **** anyway. Very flawed piece of technology, unless you want to see if someone has middled a cover drive.

Spend the money on getting snicko up to speed imo.

Care to explain?

 

[benchmark00]

Care to explain?

Explain what?

 

[Spark]

He has a point - if you can see it in Hotspot chances are you'll see it on normal slow-mo replay too. There are a few occasions where Hotspot gives a definite advantage over normal replay though (cf. Hussey's dismissal Day 1 Perth)

 

[benchmark00]

And there are times where there is a pretty obvious edge, with sound to match, which doesn't show up on hot spot.

 

[Spikey]

inside edges are a problem 'cause generally they get blocked out by pads. and if only one camera will be available per ground/match it's not that useful. good for outside edges though.

 

[Uppercut]

And there are times where there is a pretty obvious edge, with sound to match, which doesn't show up on hot spot.

But if it's a pretty obvious edge the third umpire can give it out anyway based on other evidence. False negatives aren't a problem.

 

[benchmark00]

But if it's a pretty obvious edge the third umpire can give it out anyway based on other evidence. False negatives aren't a problem.

The third umpire will very very rarely overturn a decision based on pure video footage if there is no hot spot to back it up.

The burden lies on the third umpire to decide whether there is sufficient evidence to overturn the umpire's original decision. Without a hot spot mark and no snicko there is rarely enough evidence. Simply having snicko would create that evidence, they just don't use it though.

 

[andyc]

It's like they want the UDRS to fail.

Yeah, wrong decisions will be made and the BCCI's refusal to implement the system will gain momentum.

IT'S A CONSPIRACY

 

[Somerset]

Only just read the article, and have to say that while I'm disappointed that hotspot won't be at all part of the UDRS for the World Cup, I'm not overly surprised. Its been fairly well-known that the technology providers have not been overly fond of the ICC's reluctance to adopt UDRS including hotspot across the board at test level, and so requiring the hotspot technology for just three of the games during the tournament is hardly worth their trouble. With regards to the point made above considering 'snicko', I'm fairly certain the reason it isn't part of the UDRS is the time it takes to synchronise, otherwise I'm sure it'd be incorporated.

 

[Daemon]

Explain what?

Why the hot spot will not be useful.

If it can't be picked up by slow-mo it might get picked up by hot-spot. Not 100% accurate but it will never show a white spot if there was no edge at all. It might miss edges but it certainly wont cause a batsmen to be out when he didn't edge it all.

 

[benchmark00]

Why the hot spot will not be useful.

If it can't be picked up by slow-mo it might get picked up by hot-spot. Not 100% accurate but it will never show a white spot if there was no edge at all. It might miss edges but it certainly wont cause a batsmen to be out when he didn't edge it all.

Use snicko, there's always a sound.

 

[benchmark00]

And it does show a white spot when there's no edge, KP in the boxing day test for example.

 

[marc71178]

Snicko takes too long,

As for the white spot in the Boxing Day Test, what is your point? It was clear that the white spot wasn't caused by the ball, so it's totally irrelevant.