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Sanga is under rated?

vcs

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You should exclude SA from this list because he averages almost 40 there which is more than what Tendulkar averaged there before the last tour. As Migara mentions he shouldn't have trouble against WI. The only challenges left are India and England IMO. Not doing too well against 2 teams can be forgiven for sure and certainly doesn't deserve the **** tag. I must say though that considering his record in other countries that he plays well in he doesn't get as much of a mention like say Inzy or Dravid although I do think that he is easily at their level if not better
Yeah, but his point was he hasn't scored hundreds. Though it's hard to read too much into just 5 matches and he does have a 98 and a couple of other half-centuries.
 

CamWhite

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There was certainly a time a few years ago where lots of people were unsure of him.
But over the last couple of seasons he's really shown what hes capable of, and has deffinantly made a stand to bea top proffesional for even more years to come.

A natural leader of sorts, there to pick up the pieces, and fans from all over the place can respect him and what hes doing.

Even with the competition in the world stage, he really has proven himself to be one of the best right backs in the league.
 

0RI0N

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Sachin = Kallis (atm) > Sanga tbh

Sanga > Aravinda > Jaya > Samaraweera
I see you have discovered '=' and '>' signs. weldone(seawatteyedidthere)
On behalf of the internet I thank you on the internet.
But srsly:
any Joe Blogger can use the > sign,next time make a decent arguement. Cool?
Enjoy your day son.
 

bagapath

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You should exclude SA from this list because he averages almost 40 there which is more than what Tendulkar averaged there before the last tour. As Migara mentions he shouldn't have trouble against WI. The only challenges left are India and England IMO. Not doing too well against 2 teams can be forgiven for sure and certainly doesn't deserve the **** tag. I must say though that considering his record in other countries that he plays well in he doesn't get as much of a mention like say Inzy or Dravid although I do think that he is easily at their level if not better
Not getting into stats based arguments mate. Trying to see what will make him an all round batsman so that he is bunched with greater players. Forget the decimals; SA is not a success story for him. May be not as much as ponting in india or sachin in india against SA before the recent tour. But it is still a failure if he hasn't scored a hundred in a major test playing country. Doesn't make him a lesser player, but makes it difficult to rate him with (or above) players who have achieved more all round success. And it is dishonest to assume he would succeed in WI when he clearly has not so far. Why are we in a hurry to hand it to him so easily? Let him earn it.

I am okay with him ranked alongside dravid and inzi although I think they have been more valuable for their teams in many more countries than sanga. Dravid, for example, scored match winning double hundreds in aus, pak and a match winning hundred england. And match winning twin fifties in WI. That makes him a true great, IMO.
 
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Not getting into stats based arguments mate. Trying to see what will make him an all round batsman so that he is bunched with greater players. Forget the decimals; SA is not a success story for him. May be not as much as ponting in india or sachin in india against SA before the recent tour. But it is still a failure if he hasn't scored a hundred in a major test playing country. Doesn't make him a lesser player, but makes it difficult to rate him with (or above) players who have seen more all round success. And it is dishonest to assume he would succeed in WI when he clearly has not so far. Why are we in a hurry to hand it to him so easily? Let him earn it.

I am okay with him ranked with dravid and inzi although I think they have been more valuable for their teams in many more countries than sanga. Dravid, for example, scored match winning double hundreds in aus, pak and england. And match winning twin fifties in WI. That makes him a true great, IMO.
TBF, Sanga has also done that in Pakistan and fell just short chasing a mammoth 4th innings total in Australia where he scored 192 (I think he copped a bad decision).
 

Teja.

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TBF, Sanga has also done that in Pakistan and fell just short chasing a mammoth 4th innings total in Australia where he scored 192 (I think he copped a bad decision).
Freakin' incredible Innings It was ftr.

2nd Test: Australia v Sri Lanka at Hobart, Nov 16-20, 2007 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

Accidents happen and all that but still hate the ****ing umpire. By a huge margin better than Dravid's or Tendulkar's doubles or Sehwag's almost-double in 03/04 IMO.
 

marc71178

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Ha ha yeah, anyone would think they were a boundary hit away from the game, not 143 runs short.
 

Howe_zat

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Jarrod Kimber on Kumar:

Being that it is hard to combine his life as a cricketer with that of being a trainee Lawyer, he often takes out his work to the middle and leaves it with the umpire. While at the non-strikers end he can often be seen looking over a contract or engaged in research for some litigation. His batting is like being in a bath full of butter. He is the king. His captaincy is a bit more like leaving the butter out on a hot day and forgetting about it. One day he will be so famous the world over that you will be able to get post cards that just have a close up picture of him and the words ‘Kumar Sangakkara – Sri Lanka’.
 

Furball

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Ha ha yeah, anyone would think they were a boundary hit away from the game, not 143 runs short.
To be fair, given the form he was in in that innings, I wouldn't have been suprised if Sanga had knocked those 143 runs off himself.
 

Himannv

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Ha ha yeah, anyone would think they were a boundary hit away from the game, not 143 runs short.
I watched that game. I remember starting to feel that hope against hope feeling and starting to think that we would make it. Just when I started thinking we could actually get a win at this rate, he was given out. Disappointing decision.
 

Jarquis

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He was in the middle of a big partnership with Malinga though who managed to add 46 with Murali ffs. Once it's below 100 then anything can happen really.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Yeah, but in all honesty, 143 to win with 2 wickets in hand isn't actually that close, regardless of how well 1 man is batting. Especially when the 2 wickets are hardly known for their Jimmy/Monty/Onions blocking tendencies.
 

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Slightly different, I'd have thought. No field restrictions/power plays in Tests, etc.

That said, Sangakkara did bat very well that day. Just felt like he was going to lead SL to the W.
 

Delo12

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Yeah, but in all honesty, 143 to win with 2 wickets in hand isn't actually that close, regardless of how well 1 man is batting. Especially when the 2 wickets are hardly known for their Jimmy/Monty/Onions blocking tendencies.
I watched that game,d form sanga was in it seemed possible. same guy malinga who supported Sanga at the other end, along with Angelo mathews won an ODI game out of nowhere against the same team in 2010.
SL were 107/8, no one gave a chance then, i remember the channel 9 commentators saying they were gettin ready for the presention when the 8th wicket fell, what happened?, btw, this was a test match, they could've taken their own time in scoring those runs plus, sanga was in better form and is a better bat than mathews, man..... that innings was flawless I tell you that.
 

Delo12

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well, my answer to this thread is that he is not under rated, he's highly regarded by many.
still, some of his test match innings are very much under rated, no one talks about his performance in NZ in 2006.

1st Test: New Zealand v Sri Lanka at Christchurch, Dec 7-9, 2006 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
2nd Test: New Zealand v Sri Lanka at Wellington, Dec 15-18, 2006 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

if this was some Indian Batsman people would praise it to the skies, still remember how everyone praised GGambir's match saving innings against the same NZ team.
 

bagapath

International Captain
TBF, Sanga has also done that in Pakistan and fell just short chasing a mammoth 4th innings total in Australia where he scored 192 (I think he copped a bad decision).
sanga is a superb player, no doubt. but we are talking about his place among the modern greats. so "almost" is not good enough. you cant equate this knock with the dravid performances i have listed above. the "almost" is the difference between sanga's real rating and greatness. he is "almost" great but not yet. instead of patronising him, lets wait for him to up his game in eng, WI, SA, Ind and earn his stripes.

in the lara-tendulkar era, even ponting, dravid, kallis, sehwag and waugh dont deserve to occupy the first two positions. considering how great those batsmen are, sanga, gilly, hayden and inzi would be delighted to be in the top ten. lets leave it at that.
 

bagapath

International Captain
if this was some Indian Batsman people would praise it to the skies, still remember how everyone praised GGambir's match saving innings against the same NZ team.
this shows india is really the no.1 team in the world. a few years ago, non aussies used to begrudge australian juggernaut rolling along so freely that they used to hate everything to do with aussie cricket. the attention has shifted to india which means india is really the leader of the pack.

so.... delo12, india IS the no.1 team in the world. be jealous. be very jealous. and you can go and duck yourself behind a buffalo. :laugh:

as for this comparison between gautham gambhir and sangakkara..... it would be too embarrassing even for gambhir to be compared with kumar at this point of time in his career. sanga is miles ahead of him. gambhir would do better to learn from his senior and be more dedicated and focused in his craft.
 
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