*Official* Fifth Test at the SCG

[Prince EWS]

Rubbish. Maybe I'm not much of batsman, but there was a time I was incensed to be given out caught behind as I hadn't felt anything, but my batting partner swore blind that he felt I edged it

Yeah, happened to me once as well. Noise as the ball passed the bat (which the umpire, the non-striker and myself all heard) but I didn't feel a thing and there was no deviation. I was given; still not sure if I hit it. Probably did.

 

[Neil Pickup]

My thoughts on the incident were that it was out - just out. However, with the playing conditions and match situation as it was, it would have immensely unprofessional of Bell to do anything other than review it - and it's not his fault the technology's not capable of giving fully correct feedback.

He's no more of a cheat than any of the hundreds of batsmen who have stood still having nicked behind. It's not unlike the Suarez handball in the World Cup in some ways - utter gamesmanship, but I'd do it in his position without blinking. Even if I knew I'd feathered it.

To change the subject, I thought Clarke's captaincy was very good yesterday, but a little hyperactive today. A lot of things seemed to be tried for a few minutes, discarded, and replaced with another idea - Hussey's over, the straight mid off to Cook, floating slips, deep points, Hilfenhaus' one-over new ball spell... it smacked a little bit of trying too hard to make his presence known rather than going with what was necessary, and sitting in.to hold station, trying to build the pressure. Still, 208 runs to the good and not complaining,

 

[GotSpin]

Rubbish. Maybe I'm not much of batsman, but there was a time I was incensed to be given out caught behind as I hadn't felt anything, but my batting partner swore blind that he felt I edged it


.

From personal experience I've always known when I've edged it behind

 

[GotSpin]

To change the subject, I thought Clarke's captaincy was very good yesterday, but a little hyperactive today. A lot of things seemed to be tried for a few minutes, discarded, and replaced with another idea - Hussey's over, the straight mid off to Cook, floating slips, deep points, Hilfenhaus' one-over new ball spell... it smacked a little bit of trying too hard to make his presence known rather than going with what was necessary, and sitting in.to hold station, trying to build the pressure. Still, 208 runs to the good and not complaining,

Yeah felt he might have got a little desperate.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Yeah, happened to me once as well. Noise as the ball passed the bat (which the umpire, the non-striker and myself all heard) but I didn't feel a thing and there was no deviation. I was given; still not sure if I hit it. Probably did.

Ditto on this; difference was the keeper shelled it.

 

[Daemon]

Did Beer bowl well? Or at least decently enough to justify his selection over Hauritz?

 

[social]

Did Beer bowl well? Or at least decently enough to justify his selection over Hauritz?

Bowled well enough for a guy with so little experience and showed promise

He has a good action that with a little work (doesnt really put enough into follow through IMO) should see him become a very good bowler

Having said that, Hauritz would bowl as well on a bad day atm so the decision to play Beer was hardly justified

 

[social]

My thoughts on the incident were that it was out - just out. However, with the playing conditions and match situation as it was, it would have immensely unprofessional of Bell to do anything other than review it - and it's not his fault the technology's not capable of giving fully correct feedback.

He's no more of a cheat than any of the hundreds of batsmen who have stood still having nicked behind. It's not unlike the Suarez handball in the World Cup in some ways - utter gamesmanship, but I'd do it in his position without blinking. Even if I knew I'd feathered it.

To change the subject, I thought Clarke's captaincy was very good yesterday, but a little hyperactive today. A lot of things seemed to be tried for a few minutes, discarded, and replaced with another idea - Hussey's over, the straight mid off to Cook, floating slips, deep points, Hilfenhaus' one-over new ball spell... it smacked a little bit of trying too hard to make his presence known rather than going with what was necessary, and sitting in.to hold station, trying to build the pressure. Still, 208 runs to the good and not complaining,

As you say, you cant accuse Bell of being a cheat

Despite it being an obvious nick and the referral being more out of desperation than anything, it's not his fault that the system/umpires are a joke

 

[Spark]

My thoughts on the incident were that it was out - just out. However, with the playing conditions and match situation as it was, it would have immensely unprofessional of Bell to do anything other than review it - and it's not his fault the technology's not capable of giving fully correct feedback.

He's no more of a cheat than any of the hundreds of batsmen who have stood still having nicked behind. It's not unlike the Suarez handball in the World Cup in some ways - utter gamesmanship, but I'd do it in his position without blinking. Even if I knew I'd feathered it.

To change the subject, I thought Clarke's captaincy was very good yesterday, but a little hyperactive today. A lot of things seemed to be tried for a few minutes, discarded, and replaced with another idea - Hussey's over, the straight mid off to Cook, floating slips, deep points, Hilfenhaus' one-over new ball spell... it smacked a little bit of trying too hard to make his presence known rather than going with what was necessary, and sitting in.to hold station, trying to build the pressure. Still, 208 runs to the good and not complaining,

Fair criticism, it was a point that had been raised that he did tend to try anything and everything. Hyperactive a good word to use. Still, the general theme of it was always the same - slips in place etc. so that can't be used as an excuse for the bowlers bowling some of the trash they did.

He is extremely quick to pull off a bowler if he doesn't like what he sees though. We had, what, seven bowling changes in fifteen-twenty overs of the new ball?

Although Hilfenhaus's one over new ball spell may have been the result of his one over being the drossiest of dross.

 

[Prince EWS]

I still have strong suspicions Haddin is captaining the team, or at least has a very strong input. That's not a bad thing though.

 

[Spark]

I still have strong suspicions Haddin is captaining the team, or at least has a very strong input. That's not a bad thing though.

Indeed, since most of us - including a few Clarke fanboys like me - wanted Haddin to be captain anyway

"Hyperactiveness" is a definite trait of Clarke captaincy at times though. I think I said it myself a while back - his problem is not having too few ideas, it's having too many.

 

[Jono]

Stuart Clark seems to think Clarke would want to do things his way. You sure he'd let Haddin "captain" in his first match as captain?

Not so sure myself.

 

[Ruckus]

Indeed, since most of us - including a few Clarke fanboys like me - wanted Haddin to be captain anyway

"Hyperactiveness" is a definite trait of Clarke captaincy at times though. I think I said it myself a while back - his problem is not having too few ideas, it's having too many.

Probably Warne's influence on him...

 

[Spark]

Stuart Clark seems to think Clarke would want to do things his way. You sure he'd let Haddin "captain" in his first match as captain?

Not so sure myself.

It's hard to say. No doubt for mine that Clarke is setting his own fields mostly, just by some of their characteristics (they change quickly, and in certain circumstances some truly outlandish fields are employed. That field to Anderson last over yesterday...)

I wouldn't be at all shocked to learn that Haddin was in Clarke's ear a fair bit.

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Anyway given what I've seen and given the situation I'd take Clarke's fieldsetting over Ponting's, Dhoni's, Strauss's, Smith's etc. etc. etc.

 

[Neil Pickup]

He is extremely quick to pull off a bowler if he doesn't like what he sees

Sorry. Haven't done that in ages.

 

[Spikey]

I still have strong suspicions Haddin is captaining the team, or at least has a very strong input. That's not a bad thing though.

you don't know what you're getting yourself into bro. just leave it alone pews. this goes even deeper than you think

 

[vic_orthdox]

Go and reply to DingDong's thread and stop twisting my words

Haha, classic lawyer work from Burgey; had Corrin in the witness chair. Completely discredited the prosecution's witness.

 

[vic_orthdox]

Ponting gets booed coming in to bat, and when he acts like a **** on the field.

He was applauded reaching all milestones though.

50 for Prior.

English players have only been booed when there's been a controversial decision just beforehand though. It's different to the Australians booing them just for making runs as some make it sound.

And think that it is a bit ridiculous to insinuate, as some (not all) have done that it was all of "the crims" booing Bell.

 

[GIMH]

English players have only been booed when there's been a controversial decision just beforehand though. It's different to the Australians booing them just for making runs as some make it sound.

And think that it is a bit ridiculous to insinuate, as some (not all) have done that it was all of "the crims" booing Bell.

Yeah, that's true.

Hope you're not being led by lawyer man and thinking I said that though

 

[robelinda]

Just goes to show it wasnt all Punter's fault. If the bowlers are rubbish, not a lot you can do. Same old story over and over again, the Poms bowl a tight line, we bowl 6 different ones an over. Surprised Hilfy kept his spot for this test, Bollinger wouldve been raring to go at his home ground. Im in the drop Johnson camp, get some guys who at least know where the pitch is. Its just so embarrassing to watch.