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*Official* - Pakistan in New Zealand 2010/2011

NZTailender

I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Ideally we could bat again for all of day 3! Hope Arnel at picks up at least one, ditto Southee.
 

Mike5181

International Captain
Ideally we could bat again for all of day 3! Hope Arnel at picks up at least one, ditto Southee.
Yeah and give Williamson, Franklin, Vettori, Young a decent dig at the crease. Get our test squad in a decent frame of mind before the first test.
 

Athlai

Not Terrible
I can't see Franklin playing personally. :(

Probable XI

McIntosh
McCullum
Guptill
Taylor
Ryder
Williamson
Vettori
Young
Southee
Arnel
Martin

I'd prefer one of Taylor, Ryder or Williamson batting 3 and Franklin in at 6 for Guptill. But not sure if it'll happen.
 

Mike5181

International Captain
We have a lot of talented players and are just confused about where they fit into the team which is actually good signs to be honest. Its really the whole wicketkeeping situation that has hurt us. We don't have any wicketkeepers that can be a legit top six batsmen or at least allow us to play an extra bowler.

Personally i would be looking around for some young openers, wicketkeepers.

We really only have two options for the balance of our side in the upcoming test series if Franklin were to be included.

Option One
1. McCullum- 40
2. Macintosh- 30
3. Guptill- 35
4. Taylor- 45
5. Ryder- 45
6. Williamson- 40
7. Franklin- 35 + 30
8. Vettori (c)- 35 + 30
9. Young+ - 25
10. Southee- 15 + 30
11. Martin- 5 + 30

Option Two
1. McCullum- 40
2. Macintosh- 30
3. Taylor- 40
4. Ryder- 45
5. Williamson- 40
6. Franklin- 35
7. Vettori (c)- 35 + 30
8. Young+- 25
9. Southee- 15+ 30
10. Arnel- 10+ 30
11. Martin- 5+ 30
 
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Howsie

Cricketer Of The Year
I'd prefer one of Taylor, Ryder or Williamson batting 3 and Franklin in at 6 for Guptill. But not sure if it'll happen.
Gah, so you'd swap one average cricketer for another but in the process shuffle the order around just to fit him in?
 

Athlai

Not Terrible
We can't have a 4 man attack that includes Franklin. He has had a good year with the ball but that would be too risky.
 

Howsie

Cricketer Of The Year
Franklin isn't an average cricketer, and he is in the form of his life.
Yep, we've heard that before. He was in the form of his life when he made his test comeback late 2008 against the West Indies, how did that work out again?

Whether or not he's an average cricketer I guess it really doesn't matter, but is he a better batsmen then Martin Guptill? IMO he isn't but even if you go Franklin at least Guptill will bat in a position where it will allow our best batsmen to play where they feel most comfortable and that counts for a lot.
 

Mike5181

International Captain
Yep, we've heard that before. He was in the form of his life when he made his test comeback late 2008 against the West Indies, how did that work out again?

Whether or not he's an average cricketer I guess it really doesn't matter, but is he a better batsmen then Martin Guptill? IMO he isn't but even if you go Franklin at least Guptill will bat in a position where it will allow our best batsmen to play where they feel most comfortable and that counts for a lot.
That is true and One Day Internationals are a different kettle of fish than Tests. When you watch Guptill play it really looks like he is capable of a 40+ average and he is still real young by New Zealand standards.
 

Athlai

Not Terrible
Yep, we've heard that before. He was in the form of his life when he made his test comeback late 2008 against the West Indies, how did that work out again?

Whether or not he's an average cricketer I guess it really doesn't matter, but is he a better batsmen then Martin Guptill? IMO he isn't but even if you go Franklin at least Guptill will bat in a position where it will allow our best batsmen to play where they feel most comfortable and that counts for a lot.
Reckon Williamson is a natural 3.
 

Howsie

Cricketer Of The Year
As do I and I'd love to see him batting at three, but pushing him up the order after just three matches would be reckless. Your've got to give players of his age, especially a batsmen, some stability.
 

Athlai

Not Terrible
As do I and I'd love to see him batting at three, but pushing him up the order after just three matches would be reckless. Your've got to give players of his age, especially a batsmen, some stability.
I subscribe to this point of view but I'm not sure if it is actually true of all players. If he is up to it then I reckon he should bat there. Being 0/-301 and coming in is probably less pressure than coming in at 30-90/4.
 

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