I think Wasim should be first for the yorker. Ambrose's yorker was not as lethal as Wasim's IIRC.I was lucky enough to watch all of the careers (all of the Tests involving Aust anyway) of Ambrose, Wasim and McGrath and would have McGrath a clear third tbh
I would rate McGrath
Last for the yorker (Ambrose first)
Last for swing bowling (Wasim first)
Last for the bouncer (Ambrose first)
Last for pace
Behind Ambrose for accuracy
Still hard to fault the record of McGrath
I certainly could be wrong but I remember Ambrose bowling batsman with a great yorker once bowling Mark Taylor with a yorker off a no ball and then bowling him another yorker which cleaned him up.
I'm not saying it's that extreme, but it seems self-evident to me that it's easier to analyse players when you actually sit down to analyse them, rather than play against them in a high intensity sporting contest. There are so many things that can warp your perception when you're viewing the game from that perspective as opposed to sitting back and viewing the whole thing in a comparatively disinterested manner.
Strongly disagree. Anyone who has listened to cricket commentary would have a hard time believing that any champion sportsmen are intelligent, let alone all of them (ok, that's harsh, but you get my point)
I don't really know where this claim comes from.
Well, I sort of agree with that, with reference to my comments on "intelligence" above.
Agreed. I still don't see how this puts them in a better position to analyse opponents than a comparatively impartial observer who gets to see an overview of everything that happens during a game and can concentrate his focus on this analysis.
Moderate, due to an insufficiency of the requisite physical abilities.
Well...this is a strange sentence. I'm not sure what you're trying to say, but it sounds as though you think top sportsmen are all knowing when it comes to sport. I couldn't disagree more and think that is completely insane, but I don't suppose it's something that can be proved either way.
Not sure about ever, but metronome could have been his middle name
I think the best ever in terms of yorkers was probably Waqar. Maybe Garner was close because his yorker seemed to come in from the skyI certainly could be wrong but I remember Ambrose bowling batsman with a great yorker once bowling Mark Taylor with a yorker off a no ball and then bowling him another yorker which cleaned him up.
Younis had a fine one as did Thommo but maybe the best I ever watched was Joel Garner
but nobody had a yorker as lethal as Waqar. Fast, swinging late, and into the toes.
Yes the inswinging yorker was lethal against tail end batsman. Lets just say they were all class and we may be splitting hairs to pick the best, but personally I would have themI think the best ever in terms of yorkers was probably Waqar. Maybe Garner was close because his yorker seemed to come in from the sky
And yes you might see a few occassional yorkers from Ambrose but you can just go and look into the latest bowling vids that Robelinda has posted. It is the 1993 PAk Vs WI test series. Just check out the 2Ws yorkers. Superb.
I must admit I like entertainers and always thought McGrath rather boring, still his record is a great one and his status will only grow over timearchie, I have had the impression from your posts that you don't like McGrath that much, which is kind of surprising for an Australia fan..
He was decent against the tail IIRC but the primary job of a good bowler is to get the top order cheaply. The tail gets out eventually.I must admit I like entertainers and always thought McGrath rather boring, still his record is a great one and his status will only grow over time
One thing I always do when watching cricket is try and work out how the bowler is trying to dismiss the batsman. McGrath's plan seemed to be the same to almost every batsman, effective but boring
They always said Lillee struggled to dimiss tailenders because he tried to bowl for edges, I wonder how McGrath faired against the tail compared to other fast bowlers?
True and he certainly did a good job, just ask Atherton and Lara
McGrath was one of the best ever fast bowlers to the top order if not the best. We can ask Atherton, Lara, Saeed Anwar, and a host of others and they will confirm it.True and he certainly did a good job, just ask Atherton and Lara
Great spell
I think we are agreeing mate
Fun stat just for you!True and he certainly did a good job, just ask Atherton and Lara
McGrath averages 9 against Atherton and 41 against Lara.
Poor Atherton, Lara did better than I thoughtFun stat just for you!
How did you arrive at those avgs??Fun stat just for you!
