Faisal1985
International Vice-Captain
Think i would agree after the recent performances or lack of them.
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Even Bangladeshis would 'walk into' Australian team : Jamie Siddons
- Thread starter Blaze 18
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Yes w/o a doubt Shakib would walk into Aus's current team but he'd probs make the first team of the following teams:
Sri Lanka (Better spinner than Herath and Mendis atm)
South Africa (Better spinner then Harris and Botha)
Windies
NZ (Could maybe make it as a pure batsmen)
Aus (As first choice spinner)
Pak
Pushing for 1st team place in:
England
India
he's a highly accomplished allround cricketer and who knows how he would flourish with less burden on him individually and more team support.
I'm not sure that Tamim would get into Aus team because they seem to have funny selection policy wrt batting, opting for Steve Smith and Phil Hughes ahead of Khawaja and Shaun Marsh.
Sri Lanka (Better spinner than Herath and Mendis atm)
South Africa (Better spinner then Harris and Botha)
Windies
NZ (Could maybe make it as a pure batsmen)
Aus (As first choice spinner)
Pak
Pushing for 1st team place in:
England
India
he's a highly accomplished allround cricketer and who knows how he would flourish with less burden on him individually and more team support.
I'm not sure that Tamim would get into Aus team because they seem to have funny selection policy wrt batting, opting for Steve Smith and Phil Hughes ahead of Khawaja and Shaun Marsh.
Athlai
Not Terrible
Shakib wouldn't make it as a pure batsman in New Zealand's Test side at the moment, Taylor, Ryder, Williamson has given our middle order a little more backbone. Tamim would easily get in. Shakib would struggle to usurp Vettori's spot but would be the second spinner by a hundred miles.
i understand where your coming from and cant disagree w/ what you said but i reckon nz batting lineup has enough fragile players (mcintosh/watling/guptill who have similar averages to shakib) to have a re jink and then accomodate shakib who would be a better pure batsmen for u guys as he would have better players around him and less individual pressure....hence i said maybe. I think as a pure batsmen, Shakib has a similar level of potential to guptill at TEST level.
he would have at least held up an end as effectively as swann and prevented run leakage which was a major problem for you guys in brisbane 2nd innings, adeladie and melbourne. Also he would have become a wicket taking threat in adelaide on a turner and would have i feel done better than swann at perth because he's dangerous when he can utilise bounce.
As a batsmen he would have really stabilised your tail and added some handy lower order runs.
Athlai
Not Terrible
Rubbish.
Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
Shakib is not a top order batsman. May not be accustomed to batting in those positions.
Would pick Tamim over Hughes in a heartbeat.
If Australia would actually agree, like the rest of the cricketing world, to actually play Bangers we could see how Tamim would go in Aussie.
vic_orthdox
Global Moderator
Referring to only this part of the post, when would he have made a difference? Only real time was probably Brisbane, if he could've gotten us a few wickets in England's second innings.
Adelaide and Melbourne, the problems was with the batting.
i didnt say he'd have made a major difference at melbourne, but that leaking runs was a big problem for u guys there and he'd have applied more of a squeeze to england's run rate.
He'd definitely helped at adelaide as there was enough turn for a good spinner to exploit (i..e not doherty) and pietersen wouldnt have got 226 or trott 80 or cook 130 which backed you guys into a corner in your second innings.
Black_Warrior
Cricketer Of The Year
Shakib would walk into any team othe rthan England as he is the number 2 spinner in the world now after Swanne.
Athlai
Not Terrible
He is a better bowling option than any yet fielded by Australia, so you can't measure him on what the other Australian spinners did. If Shakib was playing match situations could have markedly changed by having a quality attacking spin bowler putting pressure on the English.
vic_orthdox
Global Moderator
I'm not saying that I don't rate him (I still haven't seen a huge amount, TBF, esp. in Tests) but my point is that, for all the talk about it, the spinner - for all the talk about it - hasn't lost us a Test. You can put the Tests lost down to batting, the scoreboard pressure that hasn't been applied has had an enormous consequence on the series.
Black_Warrior
Cricketer Of The Year
Well I dont think Shakib would be able to win Australia the matches..I dont think the outcome would be dfifferent..but purely from a selection perspective, he is a better spinner than any spinner in Australia at the moment, even Hauritz..
Athlai
Not Terrible
Reckon that means you know bugger all about Shakib tbh.
vic_orthdox
Global Moderator
Yeah, it surely would have assisted. I think in the end though, the only tangible difference that could have been made would have been giving us a chance at a freak win in Adelaide and maybe getting a few breakthroughs in Brisbane in the 2nd innings.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Well, it's a better measure of one's ability to do well on Australian pitches than Test cricket in Bangladesh. Australia play half their games at home; he'd definitely need to prove himself within the system. He wouldn't just waltz into the side. The legion of people who don't rate Hughes fail to see that he's being picked because the selectors do rate him; there are other players being overlooked.
I'm not saying Tamim wouldn't eventually make the side or that he isn't a better batsman than Hughes or Khawaja or whoever, but if he suddenly informed the Australian selectors he was available, I'm 100% sure he wouldn't be rushed into the team at first opportunity. That's what "would walk into the team" means to me. He'd be signed up to a Shield team and he'd need to perform there in competition with other players to get a game.
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