morgieb
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He scored 1 ****ing run. That's pretty bad in my books. Yes his captaincy was good but that doesn't cover for his batting.
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Player Ratings - As We Go By...
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morgieb
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And I recognised that.
Regarding Strauss, it was his failure in the 1st innings again against a bowler who did Sweet FA otherwise.
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Hussey 1 Not his fault was run out then injured
Watson 4 Gave his wicket away twice when his team needed him to get big runs,never gets them though.
Ponting 1 only thing he did right was win the toss
Clarke 6 Gutsy 2nd innings knock under pressure
Hussey 7 Looks in prime form though threw it away on last day.
North 2 Surely his last match?
Haddin 5 batting very well but dropped a dolly
Harris 5 Pick of bowlers, not saying much though. King pair
Doherty 1 Not good enough
Siddle 2 Bowled utter garbage
Bollinger 1 So much hype so little delivery
Strauss 3 All for the captaincy though
Cook 9 Looks in form of his life and is cashing in on it
Trott 7 Scored well again and important run out on day 1
Pietersen 10 Brilliant double ton and massive wicket
Collingwood 4 Gave it away when set
Bell 7 Looks most in form England player, shame he hasn't been needed yet.
Prior 4 Decent cameo but dropped Hussey, luckily it didn't matter.
Broad 5 bowled better than figures suggest before injury
Swann 9 Who says finger spinners can't perform in Australia?
Anderson 8 Brilliant opening burst set up win
Finn 7 Keeps on picking up wickets despite all the criticism,i guess the convicts aren't watching their own bowlers bowl ****e.
Watson 4 Gave his wicket away twice when his team needed him to get big runs,never gets them though.
Ponting 1 only thing he did right was win the toss
Clarke 6 Gutsy 2nd innings knock under pressure
Hussey 7 Looks in prime form though threw it away on last day.
North 2 Surely his last match?
Haddin 5 batting very well but dropped a dolly
Harris 5 Pick of bowlers, not saying much though. King pair
Doherty 1 Not good enough
Siddle 2 Bowled utter garbage
Bollinger 1 So much hype so little delivery
Strauss 3 All for the captaincy though
Cook 9 Looks in form of his life and is cashing in on it
Trott 7 Scored well again and important run out on day 1
Pietersen 10 Brilliant double ton and massive wicket
Collingwood 4 Gave it away when set
Bell 7 Looks most in form England player, shame he hasn't been needed yet.
Prior 4 Decent cameo but dropped Hussey, luckily it didn't matter.
Broad 5 bowled better than figures suggest before injury
Swann 9 Who says finger spinners can't perform in Australia?
Anderson 8 Brilliant opening burst set up win
Finn 7 Keeps on picking up wickets despite all the criticism,i guess the convicts aren't watching their own bowlers bowl ****e.
NasserFan207
International Vice-Captain
Neutral perspective:
Australia:
Katich - 4: Freak dismissal in the first innings, failed to convert a start in the second.
Watson - 6: Solid performance. Not really match-turning though.
Ponting - 2: Horrible performance with the bat, uninspiring as a captain, though not much he could've done.
Clarke - 5: Fought hard in the second innings in a difficult situation. Ultimately failed again.
Hussey - 7: Australia's best batsman. Loses points for his atrocious shot in the second dig.
North - 2: Not much more can be said. Expected performance from North.
Haddin - 4: Scored a 50 on a flat deck, then failed with the gloves and failed in the second innings, though he got a genuine good ball.
Harris - 4: Probably the most encouraging Australian bowler, though that really doesn't say much. Kingpair coming in at no 8 is pretty awful.
Doherty - 1: Tempted to say zero. Felt sorry for him, clearly not a test bowler.
Siddle - 2: Toothless performance.
Bollinger - 2: Same as Siddle.
England:
Strauss - 5: failed with the bat, but led England to their first live win on Australian soil in years.
Cook - 9: Chanceless hundred basically, thought he actually batted better than in the last game.
Trott - 7.5: Edgy innings, displayed a clear weakness to the short ball but still made runs. Got a vital runout.
Pieterson - 10: Peerless performance in every capacity.
Collingwood - 5: Average performance really, though didn't really do anything wrong.
Bell - 7: To me still looks arguably the best England batsman. Didn't get a chance to show much.
Prior - 6: Solid stuff
Broad - 4: Not great. Took one wicket and got injured.
Swann - 8: Bowled well in the first and beautifully in the second.
Anderson - 8: Brilliant performance in the first innings on a flat pitch.
Finn - 5: Showed some promise, also some vulnerability.
Australia:
Katich - 4: Freak dismissal in the first innings, failed to convert a start in the second.
Watson - 6: Solid performance. Not really match-turning though.
Ponting - 2: Horrible performance with the bat, uninspiring as a captain, though not much he could've done.
Clarke - 5: Fought hard in the second innings in a difficult situation. Ultimately failed again.
Hussey - 7: Australia's best batsman. Loses points for his atrocious shot in the second dig.
North - 2: Not much more can be said. Expected performance from North.
Haddin - 4: Scored a 50 on a flat deck, then failed with the gloves and failed in the second innings, though he got a genuine good ball.
Harris - 4: Probably the most encouraging Australian bowler, though that really doesn't say much. Kingpair coming in at no 8 is pretty awful.
Doherty - 1: Tempted to say zero. Felt sorry for him, clearly not a test bowler.
Siddle - 2: Toothless performance.
Bollinger - 2: Same as Siddle.
England:
Strauss - 5: failed with the bat, but led England to their first live win on Australian soil in years.
Cook - 9: Chanceless hundred basically, thought he actually batted better than in the last game.
Trott - 7.5: Edgy innings, displayed a clear weakness to the short ball but still made runs. Got a vital runout.
Pieterson - 10: Peerless performance in every capacity.
Collingwood - 5: Average performance really, though didn't really do anything wrong.
Bell - 7: To me still looks arguably the best England batsman. Didn't get a chance to show much.
Prior - 6: Solid stuff
Broad - 4: Not great. Took one wicket and got injured.
Swann - 8: Bowled well in the first and beautifully in the second.
Anderson - 8: Brilliant performance in the first innings on a flat pitch.
Finn - 5: Showed some promise, also some vulnerability.
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Benchmark's Definitive Ashes Ratings
2nd Test
Australia
Watson: 6
Katich: 5
Ponting: 2
Clarke: 6
H00ssey: 7
North: 3
Haddin: 5.4
Harris: 5
Doherty: 2
Siddle: 2
Bollinger: 2.5
England
Strauss: 2
Cook: 8
Trott: 7.5
Petiersen: 9.3
Collingwood: 5
Bell: 5
Prior: 5
Broad: 4
Swann: 8
Anderson: 8
Finn: 5.5
2nd Test
Australia
Watson: 6
Katich: 5
Ponting: 2
Clarke: 6
H00ssey: 7
North: 3
Haddin: 5.4
Harris: 5
Doherty: 2
Siddle: 2
Bollinger: 2.5
England
Strauss: 2
Cook: 8
Trott: 7.5
Petiersen: 9.3
Collingwood: 5
Bell: 5
Prior: 5
Broad: 4
Swann: 8
Anderson: 8
Finn: 5.5
Howe_zat
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I thought you were supporting England? Or is it just Morgs?
NasserFan207
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I drift towards England more than Australia, but mostly neutral yeah.
Pup Clarke
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Sorry, but a 4 for Broad? I thought he bowled really well in this test, figures don't reflect it. I would of given him a 6 at least.
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Nope, not true. Wasn't terrible really, but not worthy of anything above four. Was unlucky in as much as he hurt himself and could only bowl eleven overs in the second innings, but that's the nature of the ratings.
Furball
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Not listening to, or responding to your partner's call then getting run out isn't unlucky. FFS, Watson completed the run easily and didn't break into anything more than a very light jog, it was about as easy a single as you'll see.
vic_orthdox
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To be fair, Watson's taken full responsibility for making a "soft call" that couldn't be heard properly.
benchmark00
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Although there was undoubtedly a single there, Watson has admitted his call was nowhere near loud enough.
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Bite me McNamara you ****. My post count is high enough as it is.
Furball
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Fair enough, hadn't read that. Still makes Katich guilty of ball-watching, so still not unlucky.
GIMH
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Good Guys
Strauss - 0 for batting, 10 for captaincy. Let's say 5. Declaration was spot on.
Cook - 9. In the form of his life.
Trott - 8 - might not be box office, but he is playing bloody well.
Pietersen - 10. Declared himself an all-rounder after removing Clarke, who am I to argue. Piled the misery on Australia and took probably the most important wicket.
Collingwood - 5.5. Steady with the bat, useful in the field. Did enough.
Bell - 7. Good innings, easy though the going was he still managed to look a million dollars.
Prior - 5.5. Steady but could have cost us with his drop. Should buy James Anderson a pint.
Broad - 4.5. Looked good without the end product but supported Anderson well on day one.
Swann - 9. Did his job in the first dig, won us the game in the second. A true national hero.
Anderson - 8. World class on days one and five. Disappointing on day four.
Finn - 6. Atrocious first dig but came back well second time. Hussey ball might not have been an ATG but the execution was spot on.
clowns
Katich - 3. His dismissal set it all off.
Twatto - 4.5. Hasn't got it in him to score big ones but did okay both innings. Bowled like he was playing a practical joke on somebody, on day two.
Chimpy - 0. It's pasag's fault for making that tribute thread.
Clarke - 5. Got a pearler first dig but fought back well second time. Doesn't have the balls to see the day out. Would lose points for letting his dismissal be reviewed but as he apologised I'll let him off.
Hussey - 6. Did well both times, but the shot to get out was slightly questionable.
North - 10. Integral to England's retention hopes.
Haddin - 4.5. Ok first dig, did nothing in the second,
Harris - 4. Australia's best bowler. Although that is like having the best vision on the blind ward.
Doherty - 1. Seems like a nice lad.
Siddle - 2. Hat-trick seems a long time ago.
Bollinger - 1. Atrocious.
Strauss - 0 for batting, 10 for captaincy. Let's say 5. Declaration was spot on.
Cook - 9. In the form of his life.
Trott - 8 - might not be box office, but he is playing bloody well.
Pietersen - 10. Declared himself an all-rounder after removing Clarke, who am I to argue. Piled the misery on Australia and took probably the most important wicket.
Collingwood - 5.5. Steady with the bat, useful in the field. Did enough.
Bell - 7. Good innings, easy though the going was he still managed to look a million dollars.
Prior - 5.5. Steady but could have cost us with his drop. Should buy James Anderson a pint.
Broad - 4.5. Looked good without the end product but supported Anderson well on day one.
Swann - 9. Did his job in the first dig, won us the game in the second. A true national hero.
Anderson - 8. World class on days one and five. Disappointing on day four.
Finn - 6. Atrocious first dig but came back well second time. Hussey ball might not have been an ATG but the execution was spot on.
clowns
Katich - 3. His dismissal set it all off.
Twatto - 4.5. Hasn't got it in him to score big ones but did okay both innings. Bowled like he was playing a practical joke on somebody, on day two.
Chimpy - 0. It's pasag's fault for making that tribute thread.
Clarke - 5. Got a pearler first dig but fought back well second time. Doesn't have the balls to see the day out. Would lose points for letting his dismissal be reviewed but as he apologised I'll let him off.
Hussey - 6. Did well both times, but the shot to get out was slightly questionable.
North - 10. Integral to England's retention hopes.
Haddin - 4.5. Ok first dig, did nothing in the second,
Harris - 4. Australia's best bowler. Although that is like having the best vision on the blind ward.
Doherty - 1. Seems like a nice lad.
Siddle - 2. Hat-trick seems a long time ago.
Bollinger - 1. Atrocious.
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Goughy
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Schoolboy stuff though, no? It wasnt Watsons call to make.
vic_orthdox
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These days, at least in Australian cricket, it's generally recognised that it's always the batsman's call, unless he doesn't know where the ball is.
Has a better view of the angles square of the wicket, knows how well or otherwise he hit the ball, and stops confusion when a ball is just behind square.
Has a better view of the angles square of the wicket, knows how well or otherwise he hit the ball, and stops confusion when a ball is just behind square.