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*Official* English Football Season 2010-11
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Ausage
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Not really suggesting that what's happening in La Liga is healthy, more that it's a problem in most of the bigger European leagues, and the difference is only in the degree due to the difference in available funds of the clubs involved. You can't blame Madrid for having more money than the rest of the league any more than you can blame Man U for having more money than Blackburn, or Wolves having more money than Tranmere.
Furball
Evil Scotsman
To be fair, it's a fairly recent phenomenon that's occured because Barcelona under Guardiola have emerged as possibly the greatest club side that's ever played the game. If Barcelona weren't so good, Real Madrid wouldn't have spent the money they have to stay in front.
8 of that starting XI, and 10 out of the 14 players used by Barcelona last night came through their youth setup btw, which is incredible.
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Yep, there's no questioning Barcelona's quality. Most of their players have also gone on to replicate their success at international level. It's the way Real Madrid steamroll the rest that is a bit worrying.
Ikki
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I don't think it's a quality thing but a mental thing now. Barca and Real have broken the spirits of the other teams. They have the most money, get paid the most money in TV rights; they have the best players; they have the best coaches; they have the best stadiums; they get an inordinate amount of attention; they probably get more of the ref decisions; etc.
That means when the other teams face them, once they go behind, or even before the match; they're consigned to defeat. The teams in La Liga seem far too accepting of loss against these two. Such a thing doesn't happen in the CL as other teams are also champs and don't have this mentality, so matches are of course closer. Barca and Real are awesome teams but the points tallies in La Liga are getting a bit ridiculous.
Contrast with the EPL where teams are far more evenly attended to. They get an equal share in the TV money; they therefore have better squads and coaches; more English players play in teams not in the top 4 and hence get more attention by the press too; etc. In general, it gives the impression that "This is the EPL; when you face a big club, it's your chance to make a name for yourself so go and do it". Even the small sides in the EPL are very hard to beat. Right now United is first in the EPL. If they continue getting the same point-rate; they will finish with 79 points - a very low score for champions showing how competitive it is now.
That means when the other teams face them, once they go behind, or even before the match; they're consigned to defeat. The teams in La Liga seem far too accepting of loss against these two. Such a thing doesn't happen in the CL as other teams are also champs and don't have this mentality, so matches are of course closer. Barca and Real are awesome teams but the points tallies in La Liga are getting a bit ridiculous.
Contrast with the EPL where teams are far more evenly attended to. They get an equal share in the TV money; they therefore have better squads and coaches; more English players play in teams not in the top 4 and hence get more attention by the press too; etc. In general, it gives the impression that "This is the EPL; when you face a big club, it's your chance to make a name for yourself so go and do it". Even the small sides in the EPL are very hard to beat. Right now United is first in the EPL. If they continue getting the same point-rate; they will finish with 79 points - a very low score for champions showing how competitive it is now.
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Agree with every line of that.
Furball
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Complete mince.
sledger
Spanish_Vicente
It's interesting, how I would say Arsenal's strength in depth, in terms of how little the squad suffers when players pick up a few injuries, is probably amongst the best in the league. Just to bad that at full strength it isn't enough to match the full strength of Chelsea, nor possibly Man Utd. Really did not think much of the Utd reserves on display today. Bebe, Smalling, Obertan, Fabio, all of them looked distinctly unimpressive. Always thought Jonny Evans was quite decent prior to today, but had an absolute shocker out there tonight.
sledger
Spanish_Vicente
Funny player Anderson. I swear when he first showed up he was actually a lot better (or at least gave that impression) than he currently seems to be. It seems as if he has actually regressed somewhat, in a similar vein to Denilson perhaps. I swear when he was in the side more frequently around 2007 and 2008 he really looked like he was showing the potential to step up as a replacement for Scholes...or maybe my memory is just dodgy.
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Yeah, he had a very impressive first season and tailed off. I wouldn't say he's like Denilson.. Denilson's clearly lacking something in his game. Anderson just doesn't play well often enough. I think he might have fitness issues, seems to get subbed off a lot and goes completely missing in games sometimes.
You'll maybe get a pretty bad impression of him if you watched tonight's game but not Saturday's. He does do certain things particularly well that make me think he has the potential to be properly good, like the way he runs at and commits players to make space in the middle of the park to release a team mate into. Spots some unusual passes, too. At the moment he's just horribly, horribly unreliable. Picking him is a massive risk in pretty much any game.
cpr
International Coach
Anyone could've had a great game on Saturday in fairness, i could've ran that midfield. Put Anderson up against an opponent who fancies a match and he doesnt deliver. Hasnt for at least 2 years. The new Klebersen.
Evans has regressed awfully this year, lacking concentration, and doesn't have the bulk to fight a strong forward.
Obertan, after a stop start begining to his utd time thanks to injuries, is slowly showing his promise, needs to speed it up a bit though.
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Haha, Kleberson was baaaad.
All I'm saying about Anderson is that I haven't given up on him. He looks to me like someone who's worth sticking with because he could come good at some stage.
He's had some good games against big teams too tbf. I honestly think it's just random as to when his good days show up.
All I'm saying about Anderson is that I haven't given up on him. He looks to me like someone who's worth sticking with because he could come good at some stage.
He's had some good games against big teams too tbf. I honestly think it's just random as to when his good days show up.
cpr
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He's not really had a good game against a big team since his first season IMO.
And being good at random isn't good enough for us. He's had long enough to settle. Signed at the same time as Nani, who was the petulant one who looked like he wouldn't make our mould, now look how well he does for that. Alas Anderson hasn't done it for me, and its too late 3 years down the line.
And being good at random isn't good enough for us. He's had long enough to settle. Signed at the same time as Nani, who was the petulant one who looked like he wouldn't make our mould, now look how well he does for that. Alas Anderson hasn't done it for me, and its too late 3 years down the line.