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*Official* First Test at the Gabba

Tom 1972

School Boy/Girl Captain
Yeah but England are so far behind they won't get any momentum until they have a lead of a hundred with wickets remaining.
Absolutely.

It will take a run-a-ball 150 from someone like KP to put Australia into a position where theu could conceivably lose, which is a one in a million. I mean if they somehow put on 350 tomorrow, they still will only have 1.5 sessions to bowl Australia out if they want to set a tough target.

Strauss just needs to retain the Ashes - he's put the cue in the rack, no doubt.
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
Absolutely.

It will take a run-a-ball 150 from someone like KP to put Australia into a position where theu could conceivably lose, which is a one in a million. I mean if they somehow put on 350 tomorrow, they still will only have 1.5 sessions to bowl Australia out if they want to set a tough target.

Strauss just needs to retain the Ashes - he's put the cue in the rack, no doubt.

He'll be more positive tomorrow - there's no point in trying to block for two days.

Kudos to Hussey & Haddin, but England lost this on Day 1.
 

Johnners

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Think Johnson needs some wickets or the selectors might face a ticklish decision for the 2nd test.

Doesn't look like taking one so far, but then he never does until he pulls a jaffa out of his not inconsiderable arsehole.
Seriously do not get the calls for his head. I may be somewhat bias, but the bloke has only ONCE averaged more than about 32 in all series since Mid 2008. In all series since 2008, he has been either the equal top, or equal 2nd wicket-taker bar the series vs WI in WI, and vs Pakistan in England, for Australia. He may leak runs, he may look poor at times, but he picks up wickets far more often than any other bowler we have at the moment other than Bollinger.

If we're going to be dropping a bowler for Dougeh for the 2nd test (which we should be doing regardless of the result imo), if it's anyone bar Hilfenhaus, it's a joke (assuming he doesn't take 5 top order wickets tomorrow, which I'd all but my life on against him doing it).
 

Pothas

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Missed all the badness today, we started taking wickets fairly soon after I started watching.

Not confident of saving this game be any means but you never know, we have seen big parnterships are very possible just need some people to show the required application (and the luck)
 

flibbertyjibber

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Well played Australia,i fell asleep just after Hussey got his ton (you know that shot for 4 we never saw reach the boundary,some of the camera work is abysmal) so missed the carnage.

England only have one thing to play for now and that is a draw,need to bat nearly 5 more sessions to manage it though which isn't going to be easy.Sky com team said batting wasn't any more difficult though against older ball than it was on day 1 so there is hope ther for England if they bat properly.

Time for the return of BRIGADIER BLOCK.:)

Oops forgot to mention the best figures for Finn,well persevered with young man.
 
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Ruckus

International Captain
Missed all the badness today, we started taking wickets fairly soon after I started watching.

Not confident of saving this game be any means but you never know, we have seen big parnterships are very possible just need some people to show the required application (and the luck)
I don't like England's chances if their strategy is to play for a draw and hold out like they did at the end of today's play. This is one of those pitches were staying around and blocking too many balls isn't a great idea. Haddin and Hussey got away with it, but they had their fair share of close shaves. The only way I can see England suceeding here is by going for the win by quickly erasing the deficit, and putting up a decent total for Australia to chase on day 5. Otherwise, If the weather holds out for the last two days, that's a hell of a long time for England to try and be defensive.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
Agreed. We saw that Haddin and Hussey looked in all kinds of bother when they were just blocking it out. It was when Haddin started to put the foot down that they looked comfortable.
 

LongHopCassidy

International Captain
Agreed. We saw that Haddin and Hussey looked in all kinds of bother when they were just blocking it out. It was when Haddin started to put the foot down that they looked comfortable.
I'm not quite convinced - I think it was the conditions easing, considering Broad, Finn and Swann all began getting smashed at the same time. Anderson didn't take that long to follow after (and even sometimes during) his second spell.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
But it all really started with Haddin beginning to throw his arms around. Old ball, new ball, if Anderson kept bowling the same line/length he bowled first up this morning there's no way we would've been going at 4 an over.
 

Burgey

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Ffs they'll just bat normally. It's not rocket science. Provided there's no shambles then they'll reassess as they go along.

I think sometimes we over analyse the game to death (myself included fwiw).
 
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LongHopCassidy

International Captain
Spark said:
But it all really started with Haddin beginning to throw his arms around. Old ball, new ball, if Anderson kept bowling the same line/length he bowled first up this morning there's no way we would've been going at 4 an over.
The thing is, he did - and it cost him, because he didn't account for the decreased bounce and lateral movement of an old ball and drying deck that made Haddin's drives much less risky. He kept hitting the same spot, only with less bounce and more predictable movement.
 
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Burgey

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I don't like England's chances if their strategy is to play for a draw and hold out like they did at the end of today's play. This is one of those pitches were staying around and blocking too many balls isn't a great idea. Haddin and Hussey got away with it, but they had their fair share of close shaves. The only way I can see England suceeding here is by going for the win by quickly erasing the deficit, and putting up a decent total for Australia to chase on day 5. Otherwise, If the weather holds out for the last two days, that's a hell of a long time for England to try and be defensive.
England couldnt draw or win the game tonight, but they could have lost it. Given the state of play they did precisely the right thing tonight.
 

vcs

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England couldnt draw or win the game tonight, but they could have lost it. Given the state of play they did precisely the right thing tonight.
Yeah, exactly. It was a good mini-session for them, a very tricky one to negotiate (15 overs or so). I certainly thought they would lose atleast one wicket, if not two before close of play, but barring the first delivery, there weren't too many scares TBH.
 

Ruckus

International Captain
I'm not quite convinced - I think it was the conditions easing, considering Broad, Finn and Swann all began getting smashed at the same time. Anderson didn't take that long to follow after (and even sometimes during) his second spell.
I think it's a bit of both. The conditions definately did get better when the sun started shining, but at the same time the English bowlers became pretty despondent after Haddin and Hussey started gaining momentum. When Strauss and Cook came out to bat at the end, suddenly the Australian bowlers were doing much more with the ball (which just shows a lot of the more innocuous bowling was probably due to despondency and fatigue).
 

flibbertyjibber

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I think it's a bit of both. The conditions definately did get better when the sun started shining, but at the same time the English bowlers became pretty despondent after Haddin and Hussey started gaining momentum. When Strauss and Cook came out to bat at the end, suddenly the Australian bowlers were doing much more with the ball (which just shows a lot of the more innocuous bowling was probably due to despondency and fatigue).
And the fact the Aussies had a new ball in their hand and that we had one mauled by a dog had nothing to do with it.8-)
 

Ruckus

International Captain
England couldnt draw or win the game tonight, but they could have lost it. Given the state of play they did precisely the right thing tonight.
I don't know about that. If their strategy is just to play at a normal pace, I didn't really see much point in them trying to simply block deliveries until the close of play today. The morning session is going to be more difficult so if anything I think they have wasted a bit of an opportunity to put up some runs in relatively mild conditions.
 

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