I would agree,Chris Cairns > Andrew Flintoff. Man some of you people over-rate Flintoff.
Davo.Always wonder why Alan Davidson never gets a mention in these threads. Possibly a better bowler than anyone mentioned and a reasonable bat.
Is the general consensusChris Cairns > Andrew Flintoff
Interesting. Yet Flintoff made it to the CW50 above likes of Donald and Garner. Some CWers must indeed rate him very highly
Can somebody post the link for CW50. I keep hearing about it but don't know what it is.Interesting. Yet Flintoff made it to the CW50 above likes of Donald and Garner. Some CWers must indeed rate him very highly
I do know about Faulkner. I thought that he did not play enough international cricket to be in the mix. If you can, read The Selected by Niel Manthorp and Michael Owen-Smith. Great book.IMO Sobers was the best batting all-rounder and Imran the best bowling all-rounder. Hard to separate the two. Imran was a great captain but Sobers was a superlative fielder and a versatile bowler.
A name that deserves to be thrown in the mix: Aubrey Faulkner from South Africa who averaged 41 with the bat and 27 with the ball. His performance in the series against England in 1909-10 was arguably the greatest ever in the history of cricket.
http://www.cricketweb.net/forum/search.php?searchid=1624206Can somebody post the link for CW50. I keep hearing about it but don't know what it is.
Ok not going to look through 15 threads but I think Flintoff is a greater allrounder than Donald or Garner. Having said that, there is no way in hell that I would rate Flintoff better than either of them as cricketers. His bowling is good but not that good. And his batting is overrated at best in tests.
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http://www.cricketweb.net/forum/cricket-chat/45053-cw50-no-50-41-a.htmlCan somebody post the link for CW50. I keep hearing about it but don't know what it is.
Geez that's a fantastic read.
Geez that's a fantastic read.
one of the best threads of all-time, not least because of the succinct pen portraits accompanying each entry.Geez that's a fantastic read.
http://www.cricketweb.net/forum/search.php?searchid=1624752Can somebody post the link for CW50. I keep hearing about it but don't know what it is.
Thanks. Makes for great reading.one of the best threads of all-time, not least because of the succinct pen portraits accompanying each entry.
I have now posted some great stats regarding Sobers and Kallis. There you will be able to compare them.There are many and if you are genuinely interested, take a search for Sobers/Kallis.. There was a thread specific to it. And if you want, we can continue discussion there.
one of the best all rounders and absolutely versatile because he's a left arm opening bowler or first change, but certainly the best bowling all rounderAlways wonder why Alan Davidson never gets a mention in these threads. Possibly a better bowler than anyone mentioned and a reasonable bat.
dont get carried away mate. 5 half centuries in 44 tests is not good enough to be called "certainly the best bowling all rounder". davo was a terrific left arm seamer who could bat a bit. that was it. but he was no match for imran or hadlee, both of whom took more than 4 wickets per test at 22 runs, which means they could have averaged a mere 5 runs with the bat and still be automatic choices in their teams as bowlers alone. as it happened, imran averaged 37 with the bat (6 centuries) and hadlee, a respectable 27 (2 centuries). either of them would be the best bets for the greatest bowling all rounder title depending what kind of balance you want in terms of bowling vs batting. hadlee was the better bowler and imran, the better batsman. even an akram who averaged 23 with bat and ball but also scored 3 centuries including a double, or shaun pollock who averaged 32 with the bat and claimed 400 wickets at 23 would be better choices than davidson. with no centuries in 40+ tests, davidson was more of a brett lee, malcolm marshall or vaas kind of batsman. allrounder is a heavy tag for his batting ability. even benaud was more of an allrounder coz even though he averaged the same as davo, he scored 3 hundreds.one of the best all rounders and absolutely versatile because he's a left arm opening bowler or first change, but certainly the best bowling all rounder
Not sure about his all-round ability but a great bowler definitely. Makes it to my all time AUS XI (at the expense of Bill O'Reilly).one of the best all rounders and absolutely versatile because he's a left arm opening bowler or first change, but certainly the best bowling all rounder