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Australia to cancel bangladesh again
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Migara
International Coach
Rubbish. When SL and ZIm were granted test status (and were minnows) ODI was taking the stage. Nothing happened to cricket. Having BAN, IRE and AFG as test countries will only enhance the game's reputation and quality in the long run despite losses in short run. If the ICC guys thought the way you had thought SL and ZIM would have never got test status, and you'd have never seen a Murali, Aravinda, Sangakkara, Vaas or Flower.No it doesn't.
My argument is that Test cricket is in danger because of other new formats like T20 cricket. That wasn't the case before.
marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
Yes, and then improved.
It is to be expected and is what has happened with Bangladesh as it did with others.
The main reason Bangladesh look so bad is that there ar ecomparatively a hell of a lot more Tests played now than when earlier nations were introduced to Tests - didn't NZ take about 45 Tests to register their first win, but that took something like 25 years?
It is to be expected and is what has happened with Bangladesh as it did with others.
The main reason Bangladesh look so bad is that there ar ecomparatively a hell of a lot more Tests played now than when earlier nations were introduced to Tests - didn't NZ take about 45 Tests to register their first win, but that took something like 25 years?
morgieb
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Yeah spot on Marc. All countries (except for Pakistan and maybe Zimbabwe - not counting Australia and England for obvious reasons) look dire for a while after they get promoted.
Noble One
International Vice-Captain
It is tough for Bangladesh, in 10 years they have managed to play 68 Test matches. The signs are only emerging now that they have a core group of Test class cricketers who will take Bangladesh somewhere. Compare to 10 years ago, that was clearly not the case. Like with all new nations it simply takes time, and for generations of young cricketers to be introduced to the game.
It is interesting to compare to New Zealand. It took 35 years for New Zealand to reach the same number of Tests Bangladesh have played. That is four, maybe five era's of cricketers? The modern game is so different, and Bangladesh still have a long way to go until they can be considered close to a Test force.
It is interesting to compare to New Zealand. It took 35 years for New Zealand to reach the same number of Tests Bangladesh have played. That is four, maybe five era's of cricketers? The modern game is so different, and Bangladesh still have a long way to go until they can be considered close to a Test force.
smash84
The Tiger King
Might as well add India to the list. They beat Pak in the first test series between the two IIRC
G.I.Joe
International Coach
Pakistan and India were the same entity before 1947, though.They both had had a FC structure in place already come 1947.
smash84
The Tiger King
GI Joe answers below
I didn't know they had FC structure in place. I am not sure Pakistan had a first class structure back in 1947.
pup11
International Coach
Agree with this, not only test cricket but cricket as a sport needs more competitive nations if cricket as an international sport is to flourish.
Countries like China, USA have such a huge market and if ICC really makes an effort to penetrate into these countries then it would only help the game grow globally.
As I said before, international cricket and the current FTP based structure of the sport is virtually a joke, because barring a series like the Ashes or the world cups none of the bilateral games have much of significance.
A tier based system is what the game really needs, with points being at stake for every international fixture and things like relegation also coming into the frame.
smash84
The Tiger King
Arjun
Cricketer Of The Year
I wonder, how often have Bangladesh won against a team that's doing well? Most of their wins (almost all?) against top teams have come when those top teams are struggling, for any reason- horribly out of form Indian team, under-strength Indian team, Aussies losing the plot, Kiwis losing the plot, West Indies' primary players on strike, baffling Lankan selections, chaotic Pakistani team. They just scare a team that's doing well or get steamrolled. That's unlike Zimbabwe winning a few times against good teams in the 1990s and early 2000s. You can't compare Bangladesh with NZ, as NZ debuted way back, when technology in cricket was at a bare minimum, so they came up the hard way. Bangladesh, on the other hand, have technology and even association support. They've got a lot of games, but against teams that are in good shape, they've lost, virtually all the time. They're a far, far cry from the decining West Indian team, who still do well in ICC events and have won a few trophies as well, or Ireland, who have lost top players to England.
M0rphin3
International Debutant
NZ losing plot? NZ without vettori & Mccullum crushed India by 200+ runs. And 4-0 against any non minnow team is an achievement. What's your point anyways? That they still luck and their wins were all fluke? Is that it?
Arjun
Cricketer Of The Year
Bangladesh have won almost all their matches against top teams when those top teams are struggling or have lost the plot. Have they won against teams that have done well? I guess not. We're talking of teams that top tables and win tournaments. Teams that look like winning, and eventually go the distance. Bangladesh haven't won against them. Or just barely.
M0rphin3
International Debutant
England in England, SA in World cup, India in World cup, Tri Series final (almost won the match too) against SL, and finally now a whitewash against a full strength NZ side.
And still you didn't mention what you're trying to prove - that BD aren't world beaters? In that case AWTA.
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awta.