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***Official*** Australian Domestic Season 2010/11

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Yep, as gooder cricketer as Ronald is, his days as an Aussie cricketer are pretty much over unless Watson becomes injury-prone again. He'd probably only ever make a 5 man attack batting 7 in the Test side, and evidently they've gone a different direction with OD cricket.

Always puzzled me to an extent, but thought that McDonald was a better fit than Hopes for one day cricket, and when McDonald was playing Tests, I thought Hopes would have been the better fit for that role. Ronald's game has really taken off since then, though; much better cricketer now than when he was playing for Australia IMO.
McDonald's never done much in OD cricket though. As much as you'd think his style would suit it, Hopes completely outformed him with change in the seasons leading up to the opening.

Siddle needs wickets in the match, btw - R Harris and Cameron fast closing in on him, if they haven't got him already. Saw Cameron bowling in a grade match earlier this summer and he cleaned up our boys, took 5-9 or something like that, speaking to them, he was a real handful, a class above Stuart Clark who was also playing that match.
Haha yes that was the week the NSW selectors left him out for Scott Coyte because they didn't think he was fit enough yet. I got really excited when I saw he'd carved up; justifiably so it seems...

The only reservation I have with picking Cameron is that it'd probably only be short-term before his next injury. Having him break down mid-match would be particularly dire. It's almost getting to a point where it's too irresistible an option though, particularly if he does well for Australia A. No question in my mind that he's a better bowler than Siddle, but that doesn't always mean he'd be a better selection.
 
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TumTum

Banned
Wait, so you've been following cricket for a couple of years and you're making calls on whether or not 20 year old batsmen will be all-time greats based on 9-ball sample sizes?
Yes. Although I have been watching cricket for quite a while, just wasn't that much into it.
 

Andre

International Regular
I like Hughes because of his character. Yeah I may be biased slightly (:ph34r:) towards him, but he is the reason why I got into cricket. It was just a fairy tale how he made his debut in SA.
If SA was a fairy tale, then England was midnight.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
If Cameron gets picked in the Test squad, the best thing about it will be this post about him...

A NSW bowler took two wickets today. Won't be long until he plays test cricket...
... which was made before he came back the following day and cleaned up Queensland twice, claiming 11 for the match.

Say that about more NSW players please Wright.
 

Andre

International Regular
McDonald's never done much in OD cricket though. As much as you'd think his style would suit it, Hopes completely outformed him with change in the seasons leading up to the opening.

Haha yes that was the week the NSW selectors left him out for Scott Coyte because they didn't think he was fit enough yet. I got really excited when I saw he'd carved up; justifiably so it seems...

The only reservation I have with picking Cameron is that it'd probably only be short-term before his next injury. Having him break down mid-match would be particularly dire. It's almost getting to a point where it's too irresistible an option though, particularly if he does well for Australia A. No question in my mind that he's a better bowler than Siddle, but that doesn't always mean he'd be a better selection.
Agreed re: Hopes-McDonald. It was more from watching the way they went about their games that I thought they'd both be better suited to the other formats better. Admittedly that isn't the case, but always found it an interesting one. Still suprised McDonald hasn't had a game in the shorter forms when blokes like Henriques and Christian have, and Hopes having had such a long and (IMO) indistinguished run in the side.

Reckon with Cameron and injury, you've just gotta pick him when his fit, he is boom or bust so may as well cash in when it's boom. If he can play a huge role early on in the odd Test series here or there we've got the depth to cover.

Not sure if he's been hugely injury prone or has just had a significant injury, though. Remember him plugging away for years in grade cricket and was on the park consistently, NSW ignored him for quite a while. Hoping they are playing the same 'tough love' game with Burt ****ley, btw.
 
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TumTum

Banned
If Cameron gets picked in the Test squad, the best thing about it will be this post about him...



... which was made before he came back the following day and cleaned up Queensland twice, claiming 11 for the match.

Say that about more NSW players please Wright.
Despite being a Victorian, I despise the Bush-rangers and absolutely love the Blues. All our batsmen are ugly and bowlers bowl dead straight. Never watch any of their matches (unless they are playing the Blues).
 

sifter132

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Yep, as gooder cricketer as Ronald is, his days as an Aussie cricketer are pretty much over unless Watson becomes injury-prone again. He'd probably only ever make a 5 man attack batting 7 in the Test side, and evidently they've gone a different direction with OD cricket.
I think he's a chance if/when the selectors get rid of North/Hauritz, they could be replaced by Smith/McDonald. I'm not sure they see Smith as a top 6 batsman just yet, but he might be the best spinner to replace Hauritz since he's really playing as a 5th bowler. McDonald playing as the 4th fast bowler would be able to keep it steady if Smith was getting owned.
 

benchmark00

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Anyone want to speculate what would've happend if Katich was fit for this shield game? Given it's a warm up for a test, I couldn't see him not opening, so I wonder what they would've done with the Prince.

Watson
Katich
Usman
Clarke
Hughes
Smith
Haddin
Hauritz
Clark
Starc
Cameron

Possibly...
 

Andre

International Regular
I think he's a chance if/when the selectors get rid of North/Hauritz, they could be replaced by Smith/McDonald. I'm not sure they see Smith as a top 6 batsman just yet, but he might be the best spinner to replace Hauritz since he's really playing as a 5th bowler. McDonald playing as the 4th fast bowler would be able to keep it steady if Smith was getting owned.
Nah, Hauritz has been playing as a frontliner - Watson has very much been played as the 5th bowler. The way his batting has taken off means that it probably will never change from that either. Would be super suprised if you ever saw Watson-McDonald-2 other quicks as our Test attack.
 

Ruckus

International Captain
Cameron won't get picked for the first test. Chappell is opting for a 3 pace attack with Hauritz. So that means in all likelihood it will be Johnson, Bollinger and Hilfenhaus. Australia has so many good fast bowling options at the moment, it's pretty frustrating.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Not sure if he's been hugely injury prone or has just had a significant injury, though.
He's had at least three pretty major back injuries, and the word is he's rarely completely fit to bowl as it acts up. Fit enough to play grade cricket generally but NSW don't like risking him in the four day stuff unless they're confident he can get through it (see the game this season Coyte played ahead of him, for example).

There were definitely examples earlier in his career when he was left out for any combination of Lee, MacGill, Clark, Nicholson and Bracken, but in the last two or three seasons, he's played whenever he's been completely fit (not often).

Hoping they are playing the same 'tough love' game with Burt ****ley, btw.
I reckon ****ley's a candidate to move states actually. He's already had to move away from his family to play grade cricket so I can't see him sticking around waiting if SA or WA offer him a contract.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Anyone want to speculate what would've happend if Katich was fit for this shield game? Given it's a warm up for a test, I couldn't see him not opening, so I wonder what they would've done with the Prince.

Watson
Katich
Usman
Clarke
Hughes
Smith
Haddin
Hauritz
Clark
Starc
Cameron

Possibly...
I reckon Khawaja would've batted five with Hughes at three. That's where he'll bat if he makes the Test team so it kind of makes sense.
 

benchmark00

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I reckon Khawaja would've batted five with Hughes at three. That's where he'll bat if he makes the Test team so it kind of makes sense.
I consider Khawaja more of a chance of batting three for Australia in the long term than Hughes though, given Hughes will probably take the place of one of the incumbents when they retire or get injured.
 

Andre

International Regular
I reckon ****ley's a candidate to move states actually. He's already had to move away from his family to play grade cricket so I can't see him sticking around waiting if SA or WA offer him a contract.
SA threw the kitchen sink at him season before last from memory, but he was getting a run then.

Wondering if him playing grade cricket for half a season or something is an agreed part of his re-hab with Cricket NSW or something like that - makes no sense that a guy like Coyte got picked ahead of him unless they are managing his return very carefully.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
I consider Khawaja more of a chance of batting three for Australia in the long term than Hughes though, given Hughes will probably take the place of one of the incumbents when they retire or get injured.
Yeah fair point, but Khawaja's a short-term chance to bat five though.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
Good thing the Vics are getting near 400. Against this batting lineup they need plenty in the bank.
 

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