which is the better batting lineup?

[miscer]

if india can get a solid batsman for that spot after laxman the lineups are more or less equal imo.

langer vs gamber - gambhir has yet to prove himself over as long of a career but equal imo (gambhir has the potential to be better)
hayden vs sehwag - sehwag beats hayden on everything except 3rd and 4th innings performances
ponting vs dravid - ponting has got it, its close but ponting edges ahead
martyn vs tendulkar - tendulkar very comfortably beats martyn
waugh vs laxman - waugh edges ahead but not by much
gilchrist vs dhoni- gilchrist comfortably beats dhoni

all that leaves is katich vs raina/vijay/pujara

if even one of those batsman can prove himself this lineup can stand toe to toe with the aussie lineup. the one reason the aussie lineup seems more consistent or w.e is because it was part of a team whose bowling was far more superior.

 

[Bloody Hell]

Why on earth would you put Katich at 6???

If you're talking about this team you either have Clarke at 6 or have 2 Waughs and Martyn at 6.

 

[Cevno]

Shouldn't India have Ganguly vs Waugh and Laxman vs Katich?

 

[Cevno]

Aus line up was for all conditions.

Both in swinging and spinning conditions i would take the Indian line up clearly.

On Bouncy pitches the Australian one.

 

[miscer]

Why on earth would you put Katich at 6???

If you're talking about this team you either have Clarke at 6 or have 2 Waughs and Martyn at 6.

because i went on cricinfo and clicked a random test aus v india in 2003 during the australian dominance period and copy pasted the australian line up.

For india I went on the test vs new zealand and copy pasted the line up. (barring the raina/pujara/vijay scenario).

EDIT:

I analysed sehwag vs hayden and found sehwag to be far superior.
He averages higher than hayden at home and away. He has fewer not outs by percent and by numer. He maintains an 8% higher average with a 40% higher strike rate. Discounting ZIM and BANG sehwag still averages 54.5 while hayden drops to 49.

^ lol at being equal or even close. 8% higher average witha 40% higher SR while maintaining that performance away and at home and vs the best teams means sehwag trumps hayden easily.

edit2: In fact after seeing this id say sehwag is india's best opener of all time. Probably the best opener in the world right now and one of the best of all time .

 

[Jono]

Disagree with the bolded. I don't think Katich was that good at six and his record up to that point backs that up I think. He was excellent in India if I remember correctly but wasn't that great otherwise. I'd put it as Katich at six = Raina at this point.

Katich at 6 over Raina wins for this knock alone:

4th Test: Australia v India at Sydney, Jan 2-6, 2004 | Cricket Scorecard | Cricinfo.com

The only thing that stopped India from a historic series win in Australia.

 

[Howe_zat]

Just throwing it out there....

Greenidge
Haynes
Richardson
Gomes
Richards
Lloyd
Dujon

Anyone?

 

[Riggins]

Voted Australian lineup, would pick it differently myself though, that

Hayden, Langer, Ponting, Martyn, Hussey, Clarke, Gilchrist

has to be my favourite lineup of all time.

 

[Spark]

Voted Australian lineup, would pick it differently myself though, that

Hayden, Langer, Ponting, Martyn, Hussey, Clarke, Gilchrist

has to be my favourite lineup of all time.

AWTAz

 

[blahblahblah]

i dont really think u put it the right way


gambhir and the IDK spot u have left are still in their early phase of their careers where as all the ones u put up in australian line up are retire or have been there since some of the posters here might have even born

if u really want to have a fair compettition , just pull in some maestros from the past into the indian line up too.. i dont want to comment on as to who u should bring it , but such a change int he line up would put up a fair competition

as to how much success they have done , both the squads have managed to put their team at the no:1 spots for a considerate amount of time where as surely the australian people have done it for a longer period where as indians have just starte don it

 

[Spark]

I'm pretty sure that we're restricting ourselves to lineups which actually appeared on scorecards in Tests. This ain't another ATXI exercise (IMO doing this - talking about real lineups that actually played - is more fun but doesn't seem to happen often)

 

[blahblahblah]

I'm pretty sure that we're restricting ourselves to lineups which actually appeared on scorecards in Tests. This ain't another ATXI exercise (IMO doing this - talking about real lineups that actually played - is more fun but doesn't seem to happen often)

then i guess azharuddin and ganguly can very much fit in

 

[Howe_zat]

then i guess azharuddin and ganguly can very much fit in

Except we are taking about comparing the current Indian lineup to the best Aussie one of their top period (roughly 2001-2004). Real teams, not hypothetical ones.

 

[Himannv]

The Aussie lineup I reckon.

Has to be said, Sehwag, Dravid, Tendulkar and Laxman all in top form would probably give them quite a decent fight.

 

[weldone]

If we are talking about class (and not form in a particular year), I'd like to compare them as follows:

(disclaimer: the followings are my perceptions, don't start crying if they don't match with yours )

Tendulkar > S. Waugh
Ponting > Dravid
Sehwag > Hayden
Langer > Gambhir
Laxman > Martyn
Katich > Raina
Gilchrist >> Dhoni

Overall, Australia 4 > India 3

 

[Howe_zat]

If we are talking about class (and not form in a particular year), I'd like to compare them as follows:

(disclaimer: the followings are my perceptions, don't start crying if they don't match with yours )

Tendulkar > S. Waugh
Ponting > Dravid
Sehwag > Hayden
Langer > Gambhir
Laxman > Martyn
Katich > Raina
Gilchrist >> Dhoni

Overall, Australia 4 > India 3

So, like many here, you could say it's Gilchrist that swings it for the Aussies.

 

[Uppercut]

Waugh just edges out Laxman but again pretty close

Surely not close at all? We're talking about Steve Waugh, right?

I think it's a bit closer than the poll suggests. India are a little hard done by because those guys are still going. I can definitely see Gambhir ending his career considered on par with Langer and Sehwag thought of as better than Hayden, but at the moment I think you really have to go for the Hayden-Langer partnership.

 

[morgieb]

Surely not close at all? We're talking about Steve Waugh, right?

I think it's a bit closer than the poll suggests. India are a little hard done by because those guys are still going. I can definitely see Gambhir ending his career considered on par with Langer and Sehwag thought of as better than Hayden, but at the moment I think you really have to go for the Hayden-Langer partnership.

I dunno about Gambhir, because 1. he's never batted outside the sub-continent and 2. he's out of touch and might well have been 'founded out' at test level.

Valid point on Sehwag, though.

 

[Slifer]

Just throwing it out there....

Greenidge
Haynes
Richardson
Gomes
Richards
Lloyd
Dujon

Anyone?

Id give the Indian and Oz lineups the edge but neither teams bowling is no where near.

Greenidge<= HAyden >=Sehwag
Haynes < Langer > Gambhir
Richardson < Ponting > Dravid
GOMES < Martyn<< Tendy
Richards > Waugh > LAxman
LLoyd > Katich > Raina (needs more time imo)
Dujon << Gilchirst > Dhoni
Bowling > BOwling >> BOwling

 

[Blaze 18]

I voted for the Australian one, but I don't think the gulf between the two is as big as the poll suggests. Adam Gilchrist is the difference maker for mine; MS Dhoni just hasn't done enough as a test batsman.