Where in the world is Zulqarnain Haider?

[Athlai]

anyways Mr Haider has to provide solid evidance of the threats he recieved otherwise ICC and PCB could take him to task and he might be playing Illford sunday league for the rest of his career.

He retired?

 

[Xuhaib]

Breaking News :

Dunya TV, Pakistan's News Channel - News of The World (NOTW) is behind threatening Zulqarnain Haider!

It seems all staged by PCB, to save Butt/Amir/Asif? It will backfire IMO.

you must have a lot of interest Pakistan nobody even in Pakistan cares about this channel.

 

[Faisal1985]

Breaking News :

Dunya TV, Pakistan's News Channel - News of The World (NOTW) is behind threatening Zulqarnain Haider!

It seems all staged by PCB, to save Butt/Amir/Asif? It will backfire IMO.

You have got to be ****ting me....seriously! Whats wrong with Dunya Tv.

 

[Faisal1985]

But crime most certainly has taken place against high-profile international visitors to Dubai. For example:
BBC News - Hamas military commander 'assassinated in Dubai'

If the threats against Haider were coming from within Dubai, I don't blame him at all for wanting to get the **** out of there as soon as he could. I wouldn't feel comfortable being in the same city as someone who was making serious threats against me.

Allegedly the biggest or the "Guru" of betting and fixing in Pakistan games is Daud Ibrahim who resides in Dubai if am not mistaken.

 

[Xuhaib]

You have got to be ****ting me....seriously! Whats wrong with Dunya Tv.

its time for Z grade channels to get ratings so lets start throwing **** on the wall hopefully something will stick.

 

[Faisal1985]

He retired?

Yup....that's what i found out from the cricinfo article.

 

[angad]

you must have a lot of interest Pakistan nobody even in Pakistan cares about this channel.

Yaar agar interest hota to channel ki reputation ka bhi pata hota, No Pakistan channel is avl in India. I got this from Pakistan forum, no one is ridiculing news source there. But I agree with you, We all know conspiracy theory capital of world is?

 

[Xuhaib]

Yaar agar interest hota to channel ki reputation ka bhi pata hota, No Pakistan channel is avl in India. I got this from Pakistan forum, no one is ridiculing news source there. But I agree with you, We all know conspiracy theory capital of world is?

In Pakistan there are 5 main news channel Geo,Dawn,Express,ARY,AAJ.

Geo is the biggest but its also Pakistan's Fox,Express protects govt interests,Ary despite being mainstream can be very unreliable so in essence only Aaj and Dawn are two with total credibility.There are countless of others like Dunya,Samaa, Din which I don't even know why they exist since nobody watches them

 

[weldone]

Yaar agar interest hota to channel ki reputation ka bhi pata hota

I guess any language other than English isn't allowed on this forum, a Mod can confirm.

 

[angad]

Thanks Xuhaib, we also have 'India TV', the most stupidest channel I have ever seen. They carry out news reports of Ghosts, UFOs and Suicide bomber in hotel rooms where Indian cricketers stay.
Breaking News : Save your cows from the damn UFOs.

Cat Rescue Live on TV -

IndiaTV is the only channel understands language of the Animals

 

[honestbharani]

yeah.. nothing wrong with typing in hindi if you have to, but you gotta provide the translation.


IN this case, Angad was saying "If I was interested, I would have known of the reputation of that channel in question."

 

[silentstriker]

Reaction:Ban Pakistan.

Pakistani cricketer takes a stand against fixing.

Reaction:Ban Pakistan.

IMO Haider acted foolishly he was in Dubai headquarters of ICC had he gone straight to them after the threat they would have handled the situation much better then how he himself has. done.

It would be the height of irresponsibility if the ICC allowed Pakistan to play any cricket at all while this stuff was happening. The players' lives are in question.

 

[Faisal1985]

In Pakistan there are 5 main news channel Geo,Dawn,Express,ARY,AAJ.

Geo is the biggest but its also Pakistan's Fox,Express protects govt interests,Ary despite being mainstream can be very unreliable so in essence only Aaj and Dawn are two with total credibility.There are countless of others like Dunya,Samaa, Din which I don't even know why they exist since nobody watches them

Actually Dunya is quite popular.

 

[Faisal1985]

It would be the height of irresponsibility if the ICC allowed Pakistan to play any cricket at all while this stuff was happening. The players' lives are in question.

Ridiculous imo.

 

[smash84]

Ridiculous imo.

 

[vcs]

yeah.. nothing wrong with typing in hindi if you have to, but you gotta provide the translation.


IN this case, Angad was saying "If I was interested, I would have known of the reputation of that channel in question."

Never realized you knew Hindi, always thought you were a born and bred Tamilian.

 

[deeps]

What the hell is really going on???? I remember an article from an influential Pakistani writer Tariq Ali which stated that Bob Woolmer and Hansie lost their lives because of this ring. At the time I was thinking that maybe it was just a conspiracy theory. Now I am not so sure.

During the Woolmer inquiry, they found the pestacide on the wine bottle, and all sorts of other things that strongly suggested something was wrong. ( i don't recall details anymore)

Next thing you know, they come out and say it was of natural causes. I don't believe it, and think perhaps the ring has very very powerful contacts.

It's almost the stuff that movies are made out of, but there is some seriously influential people out there that is severely ruining cricket as a game.

 

[smash84]

During the Woolmer inquiry, they found the pestacide on the wine bottle, and all sorts of other things that strongly suggested something was wrong. ( i don't recall details anymore)

Next thing you know, they come out and say it was of natural causes. I don't believe it, and think perhaps the ring has very very powerful contacts.

It's almost the stuff that movies are made out of, but there is some seriously influential people out there that is severely ruining cricket as a game.

Did you know that one of the bookies who had testified against the match fixing mafia (and had then fled Pakistan IIRC) was found brutally murdered? I think his body was cut up into pieces or something (but I cannot confirm this since I heard this from an unreliable source) but his brutal murder was written about in that article by Tariq Ali as well.

Also Hansie died after he testified. Bob Woolmer's death was under very very controversial circumstances. Now Zulqarnain receives threats.

I really don't know what to make of all this.

 

[Faisal1985]

Did you know that one of the bookies who had testified against the match fixing mafia (and had then fled Pakistan IIRC) was found brutally murdered? I think his body was cut up into pieces or something (but I cannot confirm this since I heard this from an unreliable source) but his brutal murder was written about in that article by Tariq Ali as well.

Also Hansie died after he testified. Bob Woolmer's death was under very very controversial circumstances. Now Zulqarnain receives threats.

I really don't know what to make of all this.

Can you post a link to that article?

 

[angad]

Can you post a link to that article?

Pakistan: sadly, there's only one Imran Khan

Whether in cricket or in politics, corrupt leaders – bar notable exceptions – are often all Pakistan has

Monday 30 August 2010

Poor Pakistan. Floods of biblical proportions; millions homeless; a president who pretends to be shocked by cricket's latest betting scandal when his own persona is the embodiment of corruption. A prime minister shedding crocodile tears because of the cricketing "shame" rather than tending to allegations that flood-relief money has gone missing. And now a sleep-walking cricket captain attempting to deny the ugly truth, but without real conviction, hoping against hope that he will ride out the crisis like others before him and that his bosses in Pakistan's cricket establishment will cast a veil over this one as well.

Even if guilty, Salman Butt and his vice-captain Kamran Akmal will try to give the appearance of having no idea of the seriousness of the allegations and will try to talk their way back, hoping, as in the past, that after a few gentle raps on the knuckles they can revert to business as usual. That would be a real tragedy, a green light to semi-legalise match fixing, and not just in Pakistan.

The Pakistan Cricket Board is a long-standing joke, its chairmen replaced with every change of government. The current boss, Ijaz Butt, is the brother-in-law of Pakistan's defence minister, a crony of President Zardari. The International Cricket Council and the England and Wales Cricket Board – somewhat pathetic bodies dominated by political and financial interests respectively – should not fudge this one. Whether Pakistan batting collapses were psychological or based on material interests we still do not know. But the moral collapse of this team stares all cricket-lovers in the face. Any perpetrators should be on the next plane home and the ringleaders given life bans. If guilty, the teenage bowling sensation Mohammad Amir should be banned for some years. His idol, Wasim Akram, is not the best role model on this front.

Some of the media comments on this affair are interesting, but irrelevant. Yes, WG Grace was a cheat on and off the field. Yes, captains of other teams – India and South Africa – have engaged in similar practices. Yes, the betting syndicates are a major part of the problem. So what? Since when has one crime justified another? How many times have I heard apologists for corrupt Pakistani politicians justifying their pillage by arguing that Europe and America also have corrupt politicians. The problem is that in Pakistan that's all we have, with few exceptions – one of whom is Imran Khan, who was also Pakistan's finest and most incorruptible captain.

The rotten core of Pakistani cricket long predates the emergence of Zardari and the present bunch of rogue politicians. There have been three semi-judicial inquiries since the 80s, the last of which, presided over by Justice Qayyum in 2000, suggested that allegations of match-fixing in Pakistan began when Asif Iqbal was captain (1979-80). He was said to have lost the toss against India, simply informing his surprised counterpart that he'd won – somethign Asif has denied.

From then onwards the cancer grew and grew. Players like Basit Ali and Rashid Latif, who refused to join the racket, testified before Qayyum as to its scale and spread. Latif, a good wicketkeeper, had taped conversations between key players and the betting syndicates. They were subsequently blackballed by the cricketing establishment. This was light punishment. A bookie who testified to the inquiry and fled to South Africa was cornered and killed in brutal circumstances.

The captain is crucial to the whole enterprise. Without him serious fixing is difficult: hence the bookies' dislike of Shahid Afridi. If the one-day series goes ahead, Afridi should insist on picking an untarnished XI, regardless of experience. Better to lose genuinely than on the say-so of the betting mafia.

Qayyum did not find the three superstars Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis and Inzamam guilty of specific acts, but all were criticised and fined small amounts. The genial if slow-witted Yawar Saeed, team manager during some of those scandals – and this one – was "of the view that all the members of the team showed 100% commitment and were not involved in match-fixing". It appears to be still his view. Waqar is now coach of the current team. Was he totally unaware of what was going on?

Forgiving these guys for wrecking our enjoyment of cricket is difficult enough. I now have a personal grudge as well: for the first time ever I was forced to buy and read the News of the World.

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