*Official* Sri Lanka in Australia 2010

[Spark]

Just watching the highlights of the Lankan innings. First ganders I've had at Starc and Doherty; both look impressive, especially the latter. Drift and turn. I dunno what his record is like but looks a bigger spinner of the ball than the test incumbent.

His OD record is excellent but his FC record... yeah.

 

[pup11]

Clarke is looking as sharp as I've seen him. Run-a-ball 50.

Read an article about a recent survey, that says, that majority of Aussies think, that Clarke is a softie and an overrated player, and that he shouldn't be made the captain in the future.
Guess, Clarke is trying to change his image now! All one can say is, that he has a lot of, hardwork ahead of him, if he wishes to change, some of these opinions.

 

[pup11]

As I said somewhere, most Aussie spinners if picked to play for Australia, certainly won't embarrass themselves, and therefore Doherty is no exception.
Reading too much into an Australian spinners FC record ain't fair, as they get treated pretty badly, around at the FC and grade level, by their captains and team managments.
Everything said and done, Hauritz remains our best test spinner, and that too by some distance, if Ponting and Co. back him, he certainly can deliver.

 

[Spark]

Read an article about a recent survey, that says, that majority of Aussies think, that Clarke is a softie and an overrated player, and that he shouldn't be made the captain in the future.
Guess, Clarke is trying to change his image now! All one can say is, that he has a lot of, hardwork ahead of him, if he wishes to change, some of these opinions.

I don't give a **** what the general public thinks, most of them are morons.

PS. I remember this survey. Clarke was given the title of "most overrated player" with something like 17% of the vote. Long way from a majority...

 

[NUFAN]

His OD record is excellent but his FC record... yeah.

His FC record is similar to how Hauritz record was when he returned to the Test Scene against NZ.

I wouldn't be picking Doherty in Test Cricket, but he is at least showing signs of improvement taking 7 wickets for the match against a good Victorian lineup in his last Shield match.

Very pleased he's in our ODI setup, hope he can keep out Hauritz.

 

[robelinda]

As I said somewhere, most Aussie spinners if picked to play for Australia, certainly won't embarrass themselves, and therefore Doherty is no exception.
Reading too much into an Australian spinners FC record ain't fair, as they get treated pretty badly, around at the FC and grade level, by their captains and team managments.
Everything said and done, Hauritz remains our best test spinner, and that too by some distance, if Ponting and Co. back him, he certainly can deliver.

Agree 100%. Even Warne was pretty darn average before his debut, even up to 12 months after his debut for Aus. Done nothing for Victoria almost ever, so you cant rely on the pure stats of our domestic spinners. Hauritz was picked almost out of club cricket in 08 and looked not bad at all, same for Gavin Robertson in 98 vs India, he held his own on that tour and the Pak tour later in the year. Most captains have no idea how to handle a spinner. Krezja had a big blow up with Bailey of his handling. but from all reports they have gotten on better, probably because Krezja hasnt played a FC match since last season!

 

[andyc]

Agree 100%. Even Warne was pretty darn average before his debut, even up to 12 months after his debut for Aus. Done nothing for Victoria almost ever, so you cant rely on the pure stats of our domestic spinners. Hauritz was picked almost out of club cricket in 08 and looked not bad at all, same for Gavin Robertson in 98 vs India, he held his own on that tour and the Pak tour later in the year. Most captains have no idea how to handle a spinner. Krezja had a big blow up with Bailey of his handling. but from all reports they have gotten on better, probably because Krezja hasnt played a FC match since last season!

Warne's figures were nothing special, but he had still taken one or two big hauls before his debut IIRC, which is more than the current spinners seem to be doing.

 

[social]

Whilst the "dead rubber" theory usually has some merit, IMO this was simply a replica of Melbourne with the only difference being that Oz finished them off today

Tbh, having seen a lot of SL in Oz over the years, a decent score on a deck like this would've been somewhat of a surprise as I wouldnt back guys like Jaywardene to succeed with someone else' money

 

[Ruckus]

Warne's figures were nothing special, but he had still taken one or two big hauls before his debut IIRC, which is more than the current spinners seem to be doing.

Steve Smith

 

[robelinda]

Warne's figures were nothing special, but he had still taken one or two big hauls before his debut IIRC, which is more than the current spinners seem to be doing.

Dunno, I cant recall any big hauls for Victoria at all, maybe for a different representative side like Aus A or something. Pitches spun a hell of a lot more back in the early 90's though, the SCG was a raging turner for shield matches. Not that Warne did any good at the SCG for Victoria back then, I dont remember him getting almost any wickets at all. Only recall Warne getting 4 wickets vs Tassie in 91, the rest of the season he failed numerous times to bowl any team out on the last day, and there were several opportunities, most of the time he failed to get even one wicket. Cant recall much of Warne's form from the previous season, 90/91, which means he must not have played much or he did really bad.

 

[Noble One]

Doherty made his first class debut near nine years ago. Tasmania have given him plenty of time to prove his worth, and it's just now he is starting to prove that he is of a decent standard. His haul in the Shield game against Victoria was quality, but you don't go selecting Test cricketers based on one good Shield game and an ODI game.

I still believe Krezja is the only spin bowler in this country (from those currently playing at FC level) who could prove to be anything beyond average, and yet he hasn't improved much from the big turning spinner of two years ago.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

This was over before i got up.

Good win by Australia but dead rubber wins mean little as you have performed with less pressure.

 

[pup11]

His FC record is similar to how Hauritz record was when he returned to the Test Scene against NZ.

I wouldn't be picking Doherty in Test Cricket, but he is at least showing signs of improvement taking 7 wickets for the match against a good Victorian lineup in his last Shield match.

Very pleased he's in our ODI setup, hope he can keep out Hauritz.

You kidding, right!? Just because Hauritz got smashed in India (which is nothing new for an Ozi spinner) doesn't mean he has turned into a bad bowler, all of sudden.
His test credentials can be questioned if he doesn't perform in the Ashes, but he has always been a good OD bowler, and there is no way Doherty should replace him in the ODI team.
I like Doherty as OD bowler, and I think there is case of both Hauritz and Doherty playing in the XI, but if we are going to only pick one spinner, then it has to be Haurry....

 

[Noble One]

This was over before i got up.

Good win by Australia but dead rubber wins mean little as you have performed with less pressure.

To take the different view you could say the low morale Aussies managed to drag themselves up for a win despite playing the better team.

Nah, Sri Lanka simply not in the contest today. Too many loose strokes and the batsmen simply had the look of not caring. The only Sri Lankan who looked to be playing with some passion was Fernando who is battling for a spot.

 

[NUFAN]

You kidding, right!? Just because Hauritz got smashed in India (which is nothing new for an Ozi spinner) doesn't mean he has turned into a bad bowler, all of sudden.
His test credentials can be questioned if he doesn't perform in the Ashes, but he has always been a good OD bowler, and there is no way Doherty should replace him in the ODI team.
I like Doherty as OD bowler, and I think there is case of both Hauritz and Doherty playing in the XI, but if we are going to only pick one spinner, then it has to be Haurry....

No of course I'm not kidding, it's not that an outlandish statement at all. All I said was I hope he can keep out Hauritz from our one day lineup...

I don't want Doherty in the Test team, no ****ing way at the moment, but yes I do like Doherty over Hauritz in ODI because I just generally think he's a smarter bowler and more economical.

Doherty is better in the field too, but Haury does win out when it comes to batting. It's quite close but I would prefer Hauritz playing Shield Cricket when the one dayers are on.

 

[Spark]

To take the different view you could say the low morale Aussies managed to drag themselves up for a win despite playing the better team.

Nah, Sri Lanka simply not in the contest today. Too many loose strokes and the batsmen simply had the look of not caring. The only Sri Lankan who looked to be playing with some passion was Fernando who is battling for a spot.

That's a concern if so because frankly Fernando wasn't very good. Very lucky not too have another 15, 20 runs against his name after bowling so many no-balls.

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Agree that dead-rubber wins are somewhat meaningless but ****it, win's a win. We'll take it.

 

[pup11]

I don't give a **** what the general public thinks, most of them are morons.

PS. I remember this survey. Clarke was given the title of "most overrated player" with something like 17% of the vote. Long way from a majority...

Cameron White the fans' choice for Australian cricket captain | Herald Sun australia_rss
No, I'm talking about this latest survey, apparently the Australian fans want White to be the next captain, which is kinda of funny, because I don't think he is test material.
Think Clarke' chances of becoming the next Oz captain are pretty slim now, since the fans and past players both don't like him much.

 

[andyc]

Steve Smith

To be honest, what little I've seen of Smith's bowling I've enjoyed. Bowled a cracker to get Pollard stumped in the T20 World Cup earlier this year.

 

[pup11]

No of course I'm not kidding, it's not that an outlandish statement at all. All I said was I hope he can keep out Hauritz from our one day lineup...

I don't want Doherty in the Test team, no ****ing way at the moment, but yes I do like Doherty over Hauritz in ODI because I just generally think he's a smarter bowler and more economical.

Doherty is better in the field too, but Haury does win out when it comes to batting. It's quite close but I would prefer Hauritz playing Shield Cricket when the one dayers are on.

Disagree pretty strongly with this, you can have any opinion about Hauritz as a test bowler, but as a OD bowler he is pretty damn good.
Doherty is a pretty one-dimensional spinner, bowls flat, at the same pace, and doesn't spin the ball much either, and on slowish pitches, he could easily get destroyed.
Haurry on the other hand, can attack or contain depending on the situation, and he is very good, against left handed batsmen.
To put is simply, Hauritz as a OD player is an important cog, in the Australian team.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Disagree pretty strongly with this, you can have any opinion about Hauritz as a test bowler, but as a OD bowler he is pretty damn good.
Doherty is a pretty one-dimensional spinner, bowls flat, at the same pace, and doesn't spin the ball much either, and on slowish pitches, he could easily get destroyed.
Haurry on the other hand, can attack or contain depending on the situation, and he is very good, against left handed batsmen.
To put is simply, Hauritz as a OD player is an important cog, in the Australian team.

Only seen the boy once, admittedly, but that's more or less the exact opposite of how he bowled today. Got some serious drift and turned it a fair way when one bit too.