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*Official* Sri Lanka in Australia 2010

Ruckus

International Captain
Don't think inside edges always = unlucky for the batsman to be honest. Why is an outside edge that gets caught at slips good bowling, but an inside edge that hits the stumps just lucky? Starc's been bowling a good length for most of the day from what I've seen.

And I also can't see how a ball that was short of a length and bounced getting an edge through to the keeper = a bloke taking a big swipe. Didn't look like a big swipe to me, and i just saw the replay again. In fact, just saw it again...there's no way he had a swipe at it.
Sorry it was Silva actually, not Matthews.

Edit: No it actually was Matthews! And yes I would call that a swipe.
 
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Spark

Global Moderator
The ball that got Mendis was a cracker. Good length, right line, extra bounce. Nothing wrong with that at all.
 

pup11

International Coach
The reason is because our batting is fragile as it is, and if Anderson can get some good swing we could collapse like a pack of cards. The only negative would be that, as you said, Watson would have to bowl a lot of overs, which I'm definately not that keen on.
Mate, a batting line-up's fragility can't be resolved by having an extra batsman at #8.
A proper batsman, batting at #8 is only likely to contribute the same amount of runs, as a Johnson or Hauritz might do, batting at the same slot.

Meanwhile, despite all the Aussie quicks, having a ball at the Gabba, Johnson remained wicketless and was largely ineffective. I fear, this might be sign of things to come!
 

Ruckus

International Captain
wtf, you are watching another game. It was Mendis and it was a quality piece of bowling, caught by Haddin.
"whilst his other one was Matthews who took a big swipe". I never even mentioned Mendis taking a big swipe. The Mendis delivery was a very good ball, edged to the keeper.
 

benchmark00

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"whilst his other one was Matthews who took a big swipe". I never even mentioned Mendis taking a big swipe. The Mendis delivery was a very good ball, edged to the keeper.
Been watching the whole thing. Two of his wickets were inside edges and dragged onto the stumps, whilst his other one was Matthews who took a big swipe. He has been good, but not that outstanding imo.
At the time of this post, Starc had three wickets. You mentioned the two bowleds he got, then you said his other one (the non bowled) was a swipe by Matthews, when it wasn't.

It's like I'm living in bizarro world here.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
Mate, a batting line-up's fragility can't be resolved by having an extra batsman at #8.
A proper batsman, batting at #8 is only likely to contribute the same amount of runs, as a Johnson or Hauritz might do, batting at the same slot.

Meanwhile, despite all the Aussie quicks, having a ball at the Gabba, Johnson remained wicketless and was largely ineffective. I fear, this might be sign of things to come!
Ineffective? Bowl some short wide rubbish sure but bowled some absolute jaffas as well which left everyone at a loss as to how they didn't take a wicket.

I thought he looked better today. Starting to warm up at last.

Plus I'm confused by the statement that a #8 won't score better than Johnson/Hauritz regardless of ability. Seems a bit counterintuitive... a better batsman would surely score more runs.

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Holy hell, Fernando. This is horrid.
 
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Top_Cat

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Don't think inside edges should be held against Starc either. Lefties tend to draw a lot of them, especially if they're even just straightening the ball.
 

Ruckus

International Captain
At the time of this post, Starc had three wickets. You mentioned the two bowleds he got, then you said his other one (the non bowled) was a swipe by Matthews, when it wasn't.

It's like I'm living in bizarro world here.
I'll clarify. One was an inside edge, onto the stumps (Silva, bowled). Another was an outside edge to the keeper (Mendis, caught). And the other one was clean bowled I believe (Matthews, bowled). Matthews was the one who took a swipe.
 

Ruckus

International Captain
Don't think inside edges should be held against Starc either. Lefties tend to draw a lot of them, especially if they're even just straightening the ball.
The inside edge was Silva, who imo was pretty damn unlucky. He played a fair distance away from the stumps - the majority of the time those inside edges don't result in wickets.
 

Shifter

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Both the Silva and Mathews shots were filthy. He may have bowled well but the batting has been by and large pretty terrible.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
Fernando in a hurry to catch a plane or something? Seems to be doing his level best to get this over in short time.
 

Ruckus

International Captain
Both the Silva and Mathews shots were filthy. He may have bowled well but the batting has been by and large pretty terrible.
Exactly, don't know why the others are so adamant he bowled so outstandingly. I suspect they are pro Starc in the first place. He bowled well, but so did Watson and Mckay, nobody really standing out more than another.
 

benchmark00

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Exactly, don't know why the others are so adamant he bowled so outstandingly. I suspect they are pro Starc in the first place. He bowled well, but so did Watson and Mckay, nobody really standing out more than another.
Actually, you'll find that I was against having Starc in the team to start off with. Good work on the detective work though.

It has nothing to do with the wickets he got. It's got to do how he bowled overall. Noone is saying that there was the best batting display ever seen going on out there, but that has nothing to do with how Starc bowled.
 

Top_Cat

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The inside edge was Silva, who imo was pretty damn unlucky. He played a fair distance away from the stumps - the majority of the time those inside edges don't result in wickets.
Two inside edges, Mathews too. Yes he was walking down the deck but that was because Starc was giving him nothing else to hit and had settled on a length. Was trying to force the pace, paid for it, full credit to Starc.
 

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