Reckon this is a very good point personally. The fact that he's meant to be a stand-up bloke would no doubt be a factor as well.Personally, I think Flintoff is more overhyped by the players who batted and bowled against him than the people on this forum.
Especially you aussies.
Perhaps so, though I think with Flintoff because he bowled a heavy ball, was constantly at you and was quite likely to bruise you any over of the day anywhere in the world, I can see why people would hate batting against him.Reckon those who have faced him/bowled to him would be a better judge of how good he is rather than us armchair critics, tbh. Would have to take their word for it.
lol so trueThere is also the fact that according to some, if a bad decision happens to a normal player, that's cricket. If it happens to Tendulkar it's a travesty of the highest order.
I don't think numbers of wickets are the only considerations when judging a bowler. If Flintoff was able to unsettle batsman, build pressure and inspire those around him, then those are assets which should be counted in his favour.Perhaps so, though I think with Flintoff because he bowled a heavy ball, was constantly at you and was quite likely to bruise you any over of the day anywhere in the world, I can see why people would hate batting against him.
However, his biggest problem was that he didn't bowl on the stumps often enough and consequently didnt get as many wickets as he could have. Hence, we have his end of career record.
Yeah all of that is true, I think most people will agree that he was a better bowler than his statistics indicated. But I think you'll find that even the most mediocre pace bowlers in test match cricket had a better SR than him and you cant completely ignore that.I don't think numbers of wickets are the only considerations when judging a bowler. If Flintoff was able to unsettle batsman, build pressure and inspire those around him, then those are assets which should be counted in his favour.
And the best judges of those things are the people who played with him.
Certainly he's somewhat overhyped though.
Yeah people don't realise that overhyped and overrated isn't always a slight on the player. It just means that they're not necessarily as good as the media or fans make them out to be. They can still be good, hell they can still be great.To be clear though, just because players are overhyped doesn't mean they aren't still exceptional.
Exactly! Couldn't have said it better myself.Yeah people don't realise that overhyped and overrated isn't always a slight on the player. It just means that they're not necessarily as good as the media or fans make them out to be. They can still be good, hell they can still be great.
Nah, it is definitely is a slight. If I say player X is overrated, I'm therefore implying that the achievements of player X are overrated.Yeah people don't realise that overhyped and overrated isn't always a slight on the player. It just means that they're not necessarily as good as the media or fans make them out to be. They can still be good, hell they can still be great.