***Official*** Tendulkar vs Ponting Thread

[Jono]

Because it was probably the lowest moment in his career.

I don't like talking about the horrible moments, when I did **** in a uni subject or got out for a golden duck in an important game or whatever.

 

[Ruckus]

Because it was probably the lowest moment in his career.

I don't like talking about the horrible moments, when I did **** in a uni subject or got out for a golden duck in an important game or whatever.

I generally think it is a better philosophy though to embrace your mistakes/flaws, rather than sweep them under the carpet.

 

[Jono]

That's probably right, so if you say "Sachin should have spoken more openly about that" its a fair enough comment. But suggesting he's not talking about it because he wants to keep this modest good guy image is a bit harsh.

 

[Prince EWS]

Such a petty thing to discuss.

 

[Ruckus]

Such a petty thing to discuss.

Just add it to the list...

 

[Jono]

We're both fans of Curb Your Enthusiasm to be fair

 

[GotSpin]

Such a petty thing to discuss.

Stop complaining about discussions you don't like..omg

 

[Prince EWS]

Stop complaining about discussions you don't like..omg

It's not like I'm calling the whole forum **** whenever one comes up.

 

[Furball]

Tendulkar saying he struggled most against Cronje is the same as if Strauss were to say the bowler he struggled against most was Hauritz (check the scorecards from the last post Ashes ODI series in England.) Sometime innocous bowlers will trouble batsmen more than greats, for whatever reason. Tendulkar saying Cronje troubled him the most is not Tendulkar saying Cronje was the best bowler he faced.

 

[honestbharani]

Yeh I just kind of wish he would speak his mind a bit more regarding his personal goals. If there is one thing Tendulkar could learn from Ponting (and there probably is only one thing!), it would be to say things as they are, rather than trying to protect his image by pretending he doesn't care about individual records. I have always found Ponting very open, a trait which is often interpreted as arrogance by the media and spectators. But that obviously doesn't deter him, and props to him for that.

But really, they live in different worlds altogether. As Tim Henman once said, a lot of times you are better of saying the right thing than the honest thing. And that is what Sachin does. He really does live under astonishing media spotlight and that is one thing for which I have the most profound respect...

 

[Ruckus]

But really, they live in different worlds altogether. As Tim Henman once said, a lot of times you are better of saying the right thing than the honest thing. And that is what Sachin does. He really does live under astonishing media spotlight and that is one thing for which I have the most profound respect...

Yeh it is very difficult (if not impossible) to actually work out whether Sachin is doing it to preserve his good image, or to simply avoid being pestered by the media. It could quite easily be the latter, but I'm really not sure.

 

[Burgey]

What's Hansie had to say about being rated that highly?

 

[honestbharani]

What's Hansie had to say about being rated that highly?

I heard he is in a fix on how to react.

 

[tooextracool]

I am not saying he has any bigger weakness than any other batsman of his time. I just don't agree that Cronje is the kind of bowler who could have troubled Tendulkar for any length of time. Tendulkar would have on some day easily taken him apart if he played him enough.

Tendulkar had a particular problem against medium pace bowlers especially earlier on in his career. Paul Jarvis, of all people, caused him some serious problems in the ODI series in 92/93 and we've seen the likes of Gavin Larsen, Abdul Razzaq and Brian McMillan cause problems. Not that he didn't eventually come good and still score against them, but it was evident back then that these sorts of wicket-wicket bowlers were the ones who really troubled him.

 

[vcs]

I remember Paul Jarvis.

 

[Migara]

Can we put Dion Nash and Chaminda Vaas there too?

 

[Migara]

Tendulkar had a particular problem against medium pace bowlers especially earlier on in his career. Paul Jarvis, of all people, caused him some serious problems in the ODI series in 92/93 and we've seen the likes of Gavin Larsen, Abdul Razzaq and Brian McMillan cause problems. Not that he didn't eventually come good and still score against them, but it was evident back then that these sorts of wicket-wicket bowlers were the ones who really troubled him.

I cannot recall Brian McMillain as a medium pacer. Possibly in 2010 he may be medium pace. Big Mac used to hit the splice extremely hard when he was on a role

 

[tooextracool]

I cannot recall Brian McMillain as a medium pacer. Possibly in 2010 he may be medium pace. Big Mac used to hit the splice extremely hard when he was on a role

Wasnt much more than 80mph was he? might have bowled a heavy ball but he wasnt especially quick especially later on in his career.

 

[Matt79]

McGrath - while no doubt prepared to viciously contest the description of his bowling as medium pace - had some good wins against Sachin as well.

 

[Flem274*]

Can we put Dion Nash and Chaminda Vaas there too?

Nash and Vaas weren't what I would call medium pacers. Vaas wasn't until late into his career anyway.

Certainly not in the same pace bracket as Razzaq, Cronje and Larsen.