***Official*** Australian Domestic Season 2010/11

[howardj]

The administrators are getting carried away because they got some good crowds for some domestic matches and players like Chris Gayle were incredibly popular.

Think I've mentioned it before, but CA will probably do to 20/20 what they did to ODIs. Play them excessively until the public grows tired of it. There's no need for gimmicks or franchises.

Precisely mate. They've wet their pants that people are actually watching domestic cricket, and they seem to be trying to skip a stage.

That stage is cementing support. Instead of keeping the comp the same for a little while and maybe allowing one more overseas player, they're going straight to expansion, straight to city-based teams with no history, and seemingly straight to private ownership.

Again, I think the weakness of the whole T20 global idea is that people are just flat out not interested in other countries' domestic T20 teams. On this score, I thought Warnie was a touch naive when he said that he thought the Rajastan Royals could be the Manchester United of world cricket.

 

[GotSpin]

Precisely mate. They've wet their pants that people are actually watching domestic cricket, and they seem to be trying to skip a stage.

That stage is cementing support. Instead of keeping the comp the same for a little while and maybe allowing one more overseas player, they're going straight to expansion, straight to city-based teams with no history, and seemingly straight to private ownership.

Again, I think the weakness of the whole T20 global idea is that people are just flat out not interested in other countries' domestic T20 teams. On this score, I thought Warnie was a touch naive when he said that he thought the Rajastan Royals could be the Manchester United of world cricket.

It's probably because no one really cares who wins in the domestic competition. The public just want a bit of cheap entertainment one afternoon. Have that entertainment 5 nights a week and its just overkill.

 

[Prince EWS]

On to less depressing matters, here's a team of New South Welshmen plying their trade elsewhere.

1. Chris Rogers (Victoria)
2. Steven Cazzulino (Tasmania)
3. Ed Cowan (Tasmania)
4. Tom Cooper (South Australia)
5. Daniel Christian (South Australia)
6. Aaron O'Brien (South Australia)
7. John Wayne Hastings (Victoria)
8. Nathan Pilon + (Carlton)
9. Damien Wright (Victoria)
10. Jason Krejza (Tasmania)
11. Michael Hogan (Western Australia)

12. Rhett Lockyer (Tasmania)
13. Brendan Drew (Tasmania)
14. Sam Robson (Middlesex)
15. Stewart Rhodes (Wellington)
16. Tim Lang (South Australia)
17. Adam Maher (Tasmania)
19. Matthew Day (Tasmania)

They all have state/county/provincial contracts except Pilon (and Rhodes who turned down a Wellington contract for this season after having an awesome 2009/10). Seven of Tasmania's contracted players for this season were actually born in New South Wales.

What a gun state.

 

[Top_Cat]

 

[Top_Cat]

In other less depressing news, Vic in all sorts of bother against Tas. 4/73, Butterworth just took two in an over.

EDIT: Jack, any idea why Quiney's coming in at 7?

 

[vic_orthdox]

Simply because Wade's been batting better, I'd say. Quiney's been struggling over the past 12 months to get a score.

Twice Vics have lost quick wickets, and you could just about put a fork in them.

 

[robelinda]

Crazy that Quiney is at 7, top order player, but I guess there's no room. Those 2 wickets have stopped us dead. Maybe Doherty can get a few to push his cause. Butterworth is a MUCH underrated all rounder, opens the bowling too sometimes, got a ton in the final a few years back.

 

[vic_orthdox]

I guess the choice was between opening with Quiney or Hill, and they've punted with youth, which is what they regularly get slated for in Victoria (not giving the young blokes a go). They've spent a lot of time on Hill, and not a huge amount of results thus far, so it'll be intersting to see what he makes of it.

 

[Prince EWS]

Crazy that Quiney is at 7, top order player, but I guess there's no room. Those 2 wickets have stopped us dead. Maybe Doherty can get a few to push his cause. Butterworth is a MUCH underrated all rounder, opens the bowling too sometimes, got a ton in the final a few years back.

Yeah Butterworth's a genuinely under-rated swing bowler. His batting's a bit the opposite though - flatters to deceive generally with the odd exceptional innings.

 

[robelinda]

Ponting has a lot for time for him, but yes he needs to score more runs or take a crap load of wickets to push his case further. I quite liked the look of Scott Kremerskothen a few years back, but same deal- couldnt get enough wickets or runs for Tassie to even stay in the team let alone push for Aussie selection.

 

[Prince EWS]

Ponting has a lot for time for him, but yes he needs to score more runs or take a crap load of wickets to push his case further. I quite liked the look of Scott Kremerskothen a few years back, but same deal- couldnt get enough wickets or runs for Tassie to even stay in the team let alone push for Aussie selection.

Butterworth takes more wickets than you think. Doesn't really have the pace or bounce to justify a primarily bowling spot on Australian wickets in Tests though; he needs to improve his batting if he wants to get in the frame.

 

[vic_orthdox]

Kremerskothen and Clingeleffer, the two greatest names ever to appear on a single scoresheet.

EDIT: Aside from McNamara and Chee Quee.

 

[Andre]

Did Polkinghorne and Hilfenhaus ever play a game with Kremerskothen and Clingeleffer? Would have been epic.

 

[Top_Cat]

Hoping Quiney breaks through for a score here. Reckon he's alright.

 

[Prince EWS]

hoping quiney breaks through for a score here. Reckon he's alright.

awta.

 

[Noble One]

Always found very little to split McDonald and Butterworth as bowlers. Both bowl at a similar pace and reliant on tidy wicket-to-wicket lengths. McDonald the far superior batsman over Butterworth though.

In the past I found that Tasmania have always batted Butterworth too high. He is perfect for the number seven or eight position.

 

[morgieb]

Did Polkinghorne and Hilfenhaus ever play a game with Kremerskothen and Clingeleffer? Would have been epic.

Pretty sure Hilf was after Polkinghorne and Kremostken's (sp?) time, but they might've.

 

[Prince EWS]

Always found very little to split McDonald and Butterworth as bowlers. Both bowl at a similar pace and reliant on tidy wicket-to-wicket lengths. McDonald the far superior batsman over Butterworth though.

In the past I found that Tasmania have always batted Butterworth too high. He is perfect for the number seven or eight position.

I don't think Butterworth and McDonald are as similar as bowlers as it seems. They bowl at a similar pace and have a similar trajectory but while McDonald bowls wicket to wicket, Butterworth usually bowls a touch fuller, a touch wider and swings it a little more. Butterworth's more of a new ball bowler while McDonald's role is more to come on with the older ball and change it up a bit.

McDonald's obviously the much better bat though, indeed.

 

[Noble One]

Pretty sure Hilf was after Polkinghorne and Kremostken's (sp?) time, but they might've.

Almost correct. Hilfenhaus started for Tasmania at about the same time as the Krem and Polk finished.

Queensland v Tasmania at Brisbane, Oct 17-20, 2005 | Cricket Scorecard | Cricinfo.com

 

[iamdavid]

Always found very little to split McDonald and Butterworth as bowlers. Both bowl at a similar pace and reliant on tidy wicket-to-wicket lengths. McDonald the far superior batsman over Butterworth though.

In the past I found that Tasmania have always batted Butterworth too high. He is perfect for the number seven or eight position.

I think Butterworth has it over McDonald as a bowler tbh, seems to have a little bit more pace about him (although he is still only high 120's, which would be pretty pedestrian at international level), and he makes the ball talk more consistently than McDonald. McDonald definately the better batsman though.