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*Official* Australia in India 2010

andyc

andyc

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social, WW has only just returned from a ban; please give him the second chance he deserves.
 
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siddi

Cricket Spectator
Australia just going through a rough patch.....after the departure of greats like hayden,gilchrist,langer,warne and others, it was always going to be a tough ask for them to remain at the top. But I am sure they will give England a hard time in the ashes, especially because they will be playing at home

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sifter132

sifter132

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
social said:
Totally agree that this will be approach taken but your investment analogy shows why it is a flawed strategy

Gamblers "average down" in the face of a falling market in the hope that a pay off will recoup their losses

Rational investors assess their position against prevailing market conditions and cut their losses if the risks outweigh the rewards

In terms of the Australian cricket team, the prevailing conditions are that we have a horribly inconsistent batting order that has been largely responsible for seeing us slip to 5th in the world rankings and lose a number of series

The risk is that the conditions OF THE PAST 2 YEARS continue and the Ashes are lost before changes are made

IMO, a rational investor would make changes now
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Hmm admirable comparison, but teams are not portfolios. There is interaction between the 11 players, combinations, off field bonding blah blah etc. Stocks and shares have no such interaction and are not affected at all if you sell one of their portfolio partners. Shares have no minds in which doubts can form, they have no confidence to lose. Players on the other hand are affected, they see 3 changes and wonder if they are going to be next. Of course the team may be affected positively by changes too, that's up to the coach and selectors to determine. So selection has to take into account that mental side as well.
 
vic_orthdox

vic_orthdox

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India v Australia: 'We need to move on quickly' - Ponting | Cricket News | India v Australia | Cricinfo.com
Having come to India with a Test average of 20 in 12 Tests here, Ponting the batsman certainly went some way towards correcting that anomaly in his career stats. But when asked whether he felt he had done his part, he disagreed. "When a No.3 batsman gets in and makes 60 or 70, you expect him to go on and make big scores. Tendulkar did it; he made 200. If I'd made 200 in the first innings, the result might have been different. We've got to be harsh on ourselves. Three scores in the 70s is not good enough."
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His deputy, Michael Clarke, managed just 35 runs in the series, a far cry from 2004 when he made a scintillating century on debut in Bangalore. Clarke has moved up the order to No.4, but Ponting was adamant that the switch had nothing to do with the downturn in his batting fortunes. "We've all had those series in India." he said. "I had about four of them [laughs], where I came here and worked hard without getting the results I wanted.
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aussie

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sifter132 said:
Hmm admirable comparison, but teams are not portfolios. There is interaction between the 11 players, combinations, off field bonding blah blah etc. Stocks and shares have no such interaction and are not affected at all if you sell one of their portfolio partners. Shares have no minds in which doubts can form, they have no confidence to lose. Players on the other hand are affected, they see 3 changes and wonder if they are going to be next. Of course the team may be affected positively by changes too, that's up to the coach and selectors to determine. So selection has to take into account that mental side as well.
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Good post. But i certainly would expect the team to be affected positively by alot of changes before the 1st test. Since the potential replacements once fit, are quality.

Mentally even if the players may be all good & encourage North & Haurtiz. They individuallly will feel the outside pressure everytime they go out on the field from now on & dont perform to the level they are expected to.
 
Oscillatingmind

Oscillatingmind

U19 Cricketer
Congrats to India, now can we cancel the three meaningless one day matches and add more tessttssss, I mean no team is taking them seriously anyway.

I don't know about ranking 5th, but to be honest 3rd - 5th theres nothing in it & since we lost to England in the Ashes we at least deserve 4th, 1-2 are probably just a bit ahead but no one stands out as number one.
 
howardj

howardj

International Coach
Well done Warnie for his tweets.

Some home truths need to be told.

We don't want or need 'yes men', of which I suspect Nielsen is one.
 
Sanz

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
howardj said:
Well done Warnie for his tweets.

Some home truths need to be told.

We don't want or need 'yes men', of which I suspect Nielsen is one.
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How can Warnie criticize Ponting when he himself was massive failure against India all over the world.

At least Ricky is fighting and trying to win for Australia unlike some folks who conveniently chose retirement and IPL when their country needed him the most. One of the most selfish cricketers to play for Australia.
 
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howardj said:
Well done Warnie for his tweets.

Some home truths need to be told.

We don't want or need 'yes men', of which I suspect Nielsen is one.
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My experience with Vinny is that he wouldn't be a 'yes' man. He's has a soft way but he's no pushover. Just suspect that Hilditch wields most of the power.
 
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Sanz said:
How can Warnie criticize Ponting when he himself was massive failure against India all over the world.

At least Ricky is fighting and trying to win for Australia unlike some folks who conveniently chose retirement and IPL when their country needed him the most. One of the most selfish cricketers to play for Australia.
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It's harsh to criticize Warne because he played the IPL after retiring. Would you begrudge Tendulkar if he was to win the WC next year and retire immediately, leaving a huge hole in the Indian middle order? Great players deserve to go out on top if they feel like it..

His criticism of Ponting's captaincy is a bit unnecessary obviously, but when has that ever held him back. I don't think he ever rated Ponting much tactically as a captain.
 
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howardj

howardj

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Sanz said:
How can Warnie criticize Ponting when he himself was massive failure against India all over the world.

At least Ricky is fighting and trying to win for Australia unlike some folks who conveniently chose retirement and IPL when their country needed him the most. One of the most selfish cricketers to play for Australia.
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**** me dead mate. Warnie was 37 when he retired. Australia will always need Warnie on the park, but it doesn't mean he's obligated to play forever.

As for being selfish? I think he was the ultimate team man, and certainly from what his teammates say, he was great to play with and be alongside in the trenches.
 
angad

angad

U19 12th Man
Upset over cricket loss, Australian athletes vandalise CWG Village

NEW DELHI: At the top of the medal tally and the undisputed champions of the Commonwealth Games, the Australian team, sadly didn't show any sporting spirit when their cricket team lost the Test series to India on Wednesday.

Enraged by the humiliating loss, some athletes, according to highly-placed sources in Delhi Police, went berserk, destroying electrical fittings and furniture in their tower in the Games Village on Tuesday and Wednesday.

Not just that, policemen posted there say they also shouted slogans against batting maestro Sachin Tendulkar, who played a pivotal role in ensuring India's victory in the Bangalore match, and flung a washing machine down from the eighth floor of their tower.

Their hooliganism started on Tuesday when Sachin scored a double century. "The house-keeping staff tried to stop them but to no avail," said a senior police officer handling security inside the Village. Stunned by the little master's stellar performance, they first damaged electrical fittings and fixtures in their block.

On Wednesday, when India brownwashed Australia 2-0 to keep the Border-Gavaskar Trophy, the Australian athletes reportedly threw a washing machine down from the eighth floor, said a senior officer. Mercifully, no one was injured.

Delhi Police, which received a complaint about this vandalism, tried to downplay the incidents to prevent them from snowballing into a diplomatic embarrassment for Australia.

On reports that some Australian athletes went berserk inside the Games Village after their cricket team lost the Test series to India, a senior officer posted there said that they have not received any complaints from Organising Committee (OC) which owns the property inside the Games Village. "Therefore, we have not registered any case," said a senior police officer.
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Delhi does that to you :laugh:

Aussie athletes slam Sachin, trash washing machine at CWG

Aussie athlete sent home for bad behaviour - Delhi 2010 Commonwealth Games News

Aussie Games trashing 'disappointing' | News.com.au

@ MODs - I hope I posted in correct thread/section.
 
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