***Official*** Australian Domestic Season 2010/11

[Prince EWS]

haha, well if you're about to get hammered, why be sporting about it? Onya Dan. Wondering whether this is any lingering feeling from when Christian was playing in NSW, anyone have any inside info?

Could be a bit pissy with the admin about not being offered a contract those few years back (and with good reason) but nothing to suggest he doesn't get along with the players, as m00phy said.

 

[vic_orthdox]

Just because he bowled a bouncer first ball @ Jacques? Meh.

 

[brockley]

Australian news: Brett Lee named for New South Wales return | Australia Cricket News | Cricinfo.com
Brett lee back.

 

[aussie]

How unlucky is Jaques? Going great, gets injured, watches as middle order batsmen become openers and now is seemingly too old for a recall.

Still has a very good chance of getting a recall in the year or so. Just needs another big season & hopefully these selectors or a new selection panel give him a recall.

Since long term as Katich goes. I can certainly see Jaques/Hughes opening with Watson dropping back into the middle-order.

 

[Prince EWS]

Still has a very good chance of getting a recall in the year or so. Just needs another big season & hopefully these selectors or a new selection panel give him a recall.

Since long term as Katich goes. I can certainly see Jaques/Hughes opening with Watson dropping back into the middle-order.

I reckon Jaques is done unfortunately. I can definitely see them just leaving Watson where he is and bringing in Hughes to replace Katich.

Not that I agree with it, but I think the selectors see this as the batting lineup moving forward, once Katich, Ponting and Hussey bow out:

Hughes
Watson
Khawaja
Clarke
North
Ferguson

I know North looks a bit odd there but I think it's part of the reason they've persisted with him - they want the team to have an experienced batsman coming in lower down once we have a few retirements and they think North's the man for it.

As much as every man and his dog on CW thinks Smith should bat in the top six or not at all, long-term anyway, I'm definitely getting the feeling the selectors just want him to work on his bowling and act as an extremely handy number eight.

Personally I don't like Clarke at four or North/Ferguson in the team at all, but I think that's what they're building towards.

 

[Jarquis]

White in for Ferguson would be good IMO.

 

[brockley]

WA put on notice as Noffke booted out - The West Australian
Noffke sacked?

 

[aussie]

I reckon Jaques is done unfortunately. I can definitely see them just leaving Watson where he is and bringing in Hughes to replace Katich.

Not that I agree with it, but I think the selectors see this as the batting lineup moving forward, once Katich, Ponting and Hussey bow out:

Hughes
Watson
Khawaja
Clarke
North
Ferguson

I know North looks a bit odd there but I think it's part of the reason they've persisted with him - they want the team to have an experienced batsman coming in lower down once we have a few retirements and they think North's the man for it.

As much as every man and his dog on CW thinks Smith should bat in the top six or not at all, long-term anyway, I'm definitely getting the feeling the selectors just want him to work on his bowling and act as an extremely handy number eight.

Personally I don't like Clarke at four or North/Ferguson in the team at all, but I think that's what they're building towards.

I dont disagree that Watson could very well and stay opening long term. But for AUS sake it think he will have to. He is all-rounder in the Kallis mould in many ways.

I have a sneaky feeling that Ponting will do like Allan Border & play until he is 40 TBH & may be back here in the 2013 Ashes. Katich & Hussey will go within the next year for sure (although Katich could hang on for another 2 years form depending.).

I see what you are saying with North. But unless some miraculous consistently comes into his batting. His experience wont mean a thing, he will always be vulnerable. The young middle-order player might as well and be backed.

I'm with you on Smith. I dont see him as a # 6 batsman at all long term. Best case scenario is what you said or a # 7 spin-bowling all-rounder like Benaud.

Plus of course this selection panel wont be around for ever. So hopefully some brains will come in.

So i guess the middle-order i see long-term (next 2 years tops)

Jaques
Hughes
Ponting
Watson
Clarke
Khawaja/Ferguson

 

[robelinda]

WA put on notice as Noffke booted out - The West Australian
Noffke sacked?

Was on his last legs anyway. WA made a bold move recruiting him at his age and poor fitness. He retired anyway after the shield game, and his one day form was pretty average. Young guys need a go, WA have been awful.

 

[outbreak]

Ponting wanting to hang on the captaincy seems like it could be his downfall in the future to me. I get an irking he'd rather retire then give it up so in the next year or two i could see him leaving completely rather then letting someone else take over and still batting somewhere in the order (i'd like to see him drop down the order abit if his form remains patchy) if the side keeps performing poorly.

 

[brockley]

Warner signs for NZ provincial team
Hodhge and warner sign for nz provinvial sides.
Noffke could be a good signing for the redbacks.

 

[stephen]

Jaques would have to be the unlucky man of Australian cricket. He's performed awesomely over long periods of time as an opener and then manages to lose his place to injury and cannot regain it again.

Still, he's only 31 and that's not too late to be recalled, but if it takes another two years before Katich goes then I can't see Jaques being picked (despite him being a better choice than Hughes).

 

[aussie]

Dont see why not. Even if that scenario occurs & its two years until he gets a call. At age 33 once he scoring runs in domestic cricket ATT, he should be picked. Katich & Lehmaan where closing in on 33 when they got recalls/full chance & they had a few quality years at the top. Same can happen with Jaques.

 

[outbreak]

Australia seems to be full of those unlucky players who perform but either can't get into the side or get in for a limited time, look at Hodge, D Hussey, Klinger. Over recent years we've failed to identity the talent at a young enough age.

 

[Noble One]

Australia seems to be full of those unlucky players who perform but either can't get into the side or get in for a limited time, look at Hodge, D Hussey, Klinger. Over recent years we've failed to identity the talent at a young enough age.

Hodge, David Hussey and Klinger are three bad examples to use at identifying young talent.

Hodge was the only cricketer who was a genuine talent at a young-age. After his breakout first season, he struggled until the early 00's. Upon becoming a more consistent and heavy run-scoring batsman he had to compete with the likes of Martyn, Langer, Lehman, the Waugh brothers, Martin Love, Ponting etc etc for a Test spot. Hodge neither had the consistency or demanded an Australian spot other any of the above.

Hussey didn't become a decent batsman until crossing over to Victoria when he was well into his late 20's. Klinger likewise once he made the transition from Victoria to South Australia.

The Australian selectors in general have been very good at picking out young talent, especially batsman. The reason Australia had so much success in the late 90's, throughout the 00's was because the batsmen and bowlers were forced to sweat it out in the Sheffield Shield until they demanded an Australian place.

 

[NUFAN]

I reckon Jaques is done unfortunately. I can definitely see them just leaving Watson where he is and bringing in Hughes to replace Katich.

Not that I agree with it, but I think the selectors see this as the batting lineup moving forward, once Katich, Ponting and Hussey bow out:

Hughes
Watson
Khawaja
Clarke
North
Ferguson

I know North looks a bit odd there but I think it's part of the reason they've persisted with him - they want the team to have an experienced batsman coming in lower down once we have a few retirements and they think North's the man for it.

As much as every man and his dog on CW thinks Smith should bat in the top six or not at all, long-term anyway, I'm definitely getting the feeling the selectors just want him to work on his bowling and act as an extremely handy number eight.

Personally I don't like Clarke at four or North/Ferguson in the team at all, but I think that's what they're building towards.

I hope you are wrong mate. Hopefully Clarke can be that experienced batsman you/the selectors are looking for - I would go insane if North was to remain playing Test Cricket while the likes of Ponting, Hussey and Katich all retired.

 

[Noble One]

Jaques is the real hard-luck story of Australian cricket. Insane to think that a Test opener in 11 Test matches could score 3 centuries at a touch under 50 and may never play a Test again.

He simply hasn't returned well from his injury. The numbers have been solid, but he is nowhere near the same as his run of form from 03 to 08. I notice he had a poor season in England, his first lean season ever in England? I have watched Jacques bat twice in the past 12 months at the ground, and he doesn't look like someone you want in the Australian Test side. He is suffering from a prolonged loss of form and confidence.

 

[NUFAN]

Jaques is the real hard-luck story of Australian cricket. Insane to think that a Test opener in 11 Test matches could score 3 centuries at a touch under 50 and may never play a Test again.

He simply hasn't returned well from his injury. The numbers have been solid, but he is nowhere near the same as his run of form from 03 to 08. I notice he had a poor season in England, his first lean season ever in England? I have watched Jacques bat twice in the past 12 months at the ground, and he doesn't look like someone you want in the Australian Test side. He is suffering from a prolonged loss of form and confidence.

Your last paragraph makes me think that Jaques is not really that big a hard luck story.

He did go very well in those 11 Tests, but if he doesn't start scoring big runs, when the Australia ODI series starts he's going to find it very tough to keep his opening spot for NSW with Hughes, Katich and I guess Maddison all around.

BTW I'm not saying Maddison is suddenly better than Jaques after one match!

 

[Noble One]

Your last paragraph makes me think that Jaques is not really that big a hard luck story.

He did go very well in those 11 Tests, but if he doesn't start scoring big runs, when the Australia ODI series starts he's going to find it very tough to keep his opening spot for NSW with Hughes, Katich and I guess Maddison all around.

BTW I'm not saying Maddison is suddenly better than Jaques after one match!

I meant hard luck in that injury struck him at the peak of his career. Funnily enough, he may only be the 5th best opener in NSW now.

 

[Kylez]

Pretty poor batting from the SA line-up it has to be said. No excuses for them today. Copeland looking the goods with the ball, O'Keefe has excellent figures this game to.

Still confident that SA will have a good season, it's only early days with a new side.

Duval has talent with the bat tbh.

Ended up scoring 87 and looked very good at the crease. If he can somehow take wickets as well as chiping in with those runs then that would be awsome, Christian and O'Brien could be feeling some pressure to.

Blizard looked very good to. He looked very capeable batting in the longer format when I was watching him, some of his drives were perfect,