weldone
Hall of Fame Member
Yeah, hoping Sachin will carry on till then (with this form, of course).
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ICC approves test championship and other changes...
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Woodster
International Captain
Not sure you can compare the Ashes to India competing with the WI just because of ICC rankings being the same. The Ashes will always be a huge contest!
juro
U19 12th Man
I can't believe the format they want to go with for the 2015 world cup. 1 pool of 10 teams playing everyone once. That is 45 games before we get out of the first round. Everyone is going to be asleep well before the thing is even close to being finished.
And when it is an abysmal failure, what happens? The ICC say "See, we were right. 50 over cricket is not popular. That's why we reduced the number of teams competing".
As an Australian, I was really looking forward to the world cup being held here. It was going to be a chance to see something different. Now it is just going to be the same teams, the same faces... sigh...
And when it is an abysmal failure, what happens? The ICC say "See, we were right. 50 over cricket is not popular. That's why we reduced the number of teams competing".
As an Australian, I was really looking forward to the world cup being held here. It was going to be a chance to see something different. Now it is just going to be the same teams, the same faces... sigh...
turnstyle
First Class Debutant
Not to mention all the dead rubbers towards the end of the first round. Thank christ India will be playing in them instead of Ireland. Nobody likes a one sided dead rubber
aussie
Hall of Fame Member
But do they really need to be a test championship for SRI to play more tests in ENG, AUS or SA though?. I have always seen it a poor scheduling from the boards involved.
Janus
School Boy/Girl Cricketer
How many of These players would even be willing to rock the boat outside of an anonymous survey? No other sport in the world is run in the lunatic fashion that cricket is, ultimately cricket needs a new structure but I doubt the willingness to get away from the ICC and it's boards.
The Players are the only ones with the power to change the course of cricket but are they gutsy enough to risk their lucrative contracts for what's best? If Not, then I doubt crickets future when its core is playing for money rather than the love of it.
aussie
Hall of Fame Member
The unfortunate truth. The ICC should have been made more independent since the Kerry Packer debacle. So i sort of blame all the world cricket boards for not sitting down since then & making such a compromise. Since now with the BCCI as the defacto heads i cant see them wanting to relinquish the power they have so easily.
laksh_01
State Vice-Captain
I think 2015 is gonna be the last 50 Overs WC as ICC is also introducing One day league. ODIs will only be played as league. Guess Cricket is only T20 here after. If thats the case ICC should conduct T20 World once every 4 years as Cricket World Cup. Lets say:
2011 - CWC, Subcontinent
2012 - WT20, Sri Lanka
2014 - WT20, B.Desh (After this tournament WT20 should be the only Cricket World cup n conducted once every 4 years)
2015 - CWC, Aus/NZL
2018 - WT20, England ( 1st T20 tournament to be conducted after 4 years to be hosted by England instead of scrapped 2019 CWC).
2022 - WT20.......
2011 - CWC, Subcontinent
2012 - WT20, Sri Lanka
2014 - WT20, B.Desh (After this tournament WT20 should be the only Cricket World cup n conducted once every 4 years)
2015 - CWC, Aus/NZL
2018 - WT20, England ( 1st T20 tournament to be conducted after 4 years to be hosted by England instead of scrapped 2019 CWC).
2022 - WT20.......
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
The more I think about it, this is all the BCCI's doing. We all know they control the ICC (isn't that what you folks say?), and the BCCI don't want Sachin to retire anytime soon.
So they keep ensuring there are significant events that Sachin will continue to play on for. Firstly, what other reason was there for the BCCI to steal the 2011 World Cup off Australia and ensure it was played in India (
) but to have Sachin want to stay on in ODI cricket for it. Now they want him to keep palying tests until 2013 so he can take part in the play-off.
And if India aren't one of the top 4 teams in 2013, the BCCI will just make India one of the top 4 teams by removing test status of whoever is 4th.
So they keep ensuring there are significant events that Sachin will continue to play on for. Firstly, what other reason was there for the BCCI to steal the 2011 World Cup off Australia and ensure it was played in India (
) but to have Sachin want to stay on in ODI cricket for it. Now they want him to keep palying tests until 2013 so he can take part in the play-off.And if India aren't one of the top 4 teams in 2013, the BCCI will just make India one of the top 4 teams by removing test status of whoever is 4th.
weldone
Hall of Fame Member
lmfao
Furball
Evil Scotsman
The problem Sri Lanka have is that they're not as lucrative a draw outside the subcontinent.
What the Test Championship needs to do is ensure that top ranked teams are given decent length series.
aussie
Hall of Fame Member
Think the lucrative thing is a bit overated TBH. For the major/successfull nations outside the subcontinet this decade such AUS, SA, ENG. Who hosted the likes of WI, NZ more than twice at times @ home this decade when their standard of test cricket has declined. Surely they could hosted SRI who where better than both those sides genereally, more this decade.
Furball
Evil Scotsman
The West Indies are still more of a lucrative draw because of the historic rivalry.
This winter, numbers 1 and 2 in the rankings will square off, as will 4 and 5. Only one of those series will have its own sub-forum.
G.I.Joe
International Coach
If the 2015 WC has to be made a 10 nation world cup then it should have a proper qualification system. I ranked the top 40 team in world of Cricket based on a combination of ICC Ranking, in which division they are (Means if a team is in Division 2 it is assumed to be better than a team of Division 3, Cricket Europe ranking differ on that). The ranking throws up team like till (Till Division 7 we get 40 teams)
Rank Country Status
1 Australia Test
2 South Africa Test
3 India Test
4 Sri Lanka Test
5 England Test
6 Pakistan Test
7 New Zealand Test
8 West Indies Test
9 Bangladesh Test
10 Ireland Div 1
11 Zimbabwe Test
12 Netherlands Div 1
13 Kenya Div 1
14 Afghanistan Div 1
15 Scotland Div 1
16 Canada Div 1
17 Namibia Div 2
18 UAE Div 2
19 Uganda Div 2
20 Bermuda Div 2
21 Papua New Guinea Div 3
22 USA Div 3
23 Oman Div 3
24 Italy Div 3
25 Hong Kong Div 3
26 Denmark Div 3
27 Nepal Div 4
28 Tanzania Div 4
29 Singapore Div 5
30 Bahrain Div 5
31 Cayman Islands Div 5
32 Argentina Div 5
33 Jersey Div 6
34 Guernsey Div 6
35 Malaysia Div 6
36 Fiji Div 6
37 Botswana Div 7
38 Nigeria Div 7
39 Japan Div 7
40 Norway Div 7
These teams should be divided in 10 pools of 4 each and each team plays the other 2 times so that odd upsets don affect. The top team from each pool qualifies directly for the world cup. The pools are as follows
A:- Australia , Bermuda, Papua New Guinea, Norway
B:-South Africa , Uganda USA Japan
C:-India , UAE , Oman, Nigeria
D:-Sri Lanka, Namibia, Italy, Botswana
E:-England, Canada, Hong Kong, Fiji
F:-Pakistan, Scotland, Denmark, Malaysia
G:-Afghanistan, Guernsey , New Zealand, Nepal
H:-West Indies, Kenya, Tanzania, Jersey
I:-Bangladesh, Netherlands, Singapore, Argentina
J:-Ireland, Zimbabwe, Bahrain, Cayman Islands
The hosting for the tournament can be given to the associate / affiliate's if they are willing to host so that they can earn some money too due to sponsorship from the visiting test teams. For Eg in Group D Namibia or Botswana can host it where they play their rival the neighbors and a Test Team or in group C UAE or Oman can host India can help their board to generate cash. The Associate's can do advertisements and since big teams are there they can ask sports channels to broadcast the match.
It would be upto the Test teams to decide what quality of team they will send but as per ICC guidelines 14 Players per team should be allowed.
I hope ICC goes for such a approach and if any non test team say Netherlands defeats Bangladesh and qualifies then they have done it on a merit (As each teams plays other twice hence it will not be based out of odd upset) and would deserve to play in world cup
The Schedule can be in the way it is done for WCL. For eg Group A can happen like this
Day 1:- Aus v Nor, Ber v PNG
Day 2:- Aus v PNG, Ber v Nor
Day 3:-Reserve Day
Day 4:- Aus v Ber, PNG v Nor
Day 5:- Aus v Nor, Ber v PNG
Day 6:-Reserve Day
Day 7:- Aus v PNG, Ber v Nor
Day 8:- Aus v Ber, PNG v Nor
Day 9:-Reserve Day
NO FINALS SHOULD BE THERE TO AVOID A FLUKE QUALIFICATION.
Rank Country Status
1 Australia Test
2 South Africa Test
3 India Test
4 Sri Lanka Test
5 England Test
6 Pakistan Test
7 New Zealand Test
8 West Indies Test
9 Bangladesh Test
10 Ireland Div 1
11 Zimbabwe Test
12 Netherlands Div 1
13 Kenya Div 1
14 Afghanistan Div 1
15 Scotland Div 1
16 Canada Div 1
17 Namibia Div 2
18 UAE Div 2
19 Uganda Div 2
20 Bermuda Div 2
21 Papua New Guinea Div 3
22 USA Div 3
23 Oman Div 3
24 Italy Div 3
25 Hong Kong Div 3
26 Denmark Div 3
27 Nepal Div 4
28 Tanzania Div 4
29 Singapore Div 5
30 Bahrain Div 5
31 Cayman Islands Div 5
32 Argentina Div 5
33 Jersey Div 6
34 Guernsey Div 6
35 Malaysia Div 6
36 Fiji Div 6
37 Botswana Div 7
38 Nigeria Div 7
39 Japan Div 7
40 Norway Div 7
These teams should be divided in 10 pools of 4 each and each team plays the other 2 times so that odd upsets don affect. The top team from each pool qualifies directly for the world cup. The pools are as follows
A:- Australia , Bermuda, Papua New Guinea, Norway
B:-South Africa , Uganda USA Japan
C:-India , UAE , Oman, Nigeria
D:-Sri Lanka, Namibia, Italy, Botswana
E:-England, Canada, Hong Kong, Fiji
F:-Pakistan, Scotland, Denmark, Malaysia
G:-Afghanistan, Guernsey , New Zealand, Nepal
H:-West Indies, Kenya, Tanzania, Jersey
I:-Bangladesh, Netherlands, Singapore, Argentina
J:-Ireland, Zimbabwe, Bahrain, Cayman Islands
The hosting for the tournament can be given to the associate / affiliate's if they are willing to host so that they can earn some money too due to sponsorship from the visiting test teams. For Eg in Group D Namibia or Botswana can host it where they play their rival the neighbors and a Test Team or in group C UAE or Oman can host India can help their board to generate cash. The Associate's can do advertisements and since big teams are there they can ask sports channels to broadcast the match.
It would be upto the Test teams to decide what quality of team they will send but as per ICC guidelines 14 Players per team should be allowed.
I hope ICC goes for such a approach and if any non test team say Netherlands defeats Bangladesh and qualifies then they have done it on a merit (As each teams plays other twice hence it will not be based out of odd upset) and would deserve to play in world cup
The Schedule can be in the way it is done for WCL. For eg Group A can happen like this
Day 1:- Aus v Nor, Ber v PNG
Day 2:- Aus v PNG, Ber v Nor
Day 3:-Reserve Day
Day 4:- Aus v Ber, PNG v Nor
Day 5:- Aus v Nor, Ber v PNG
Day 6:-Reserve Day
Day 7:- Aus v PNG, Ber v Nor
Day 8:- Aus v Ber, PNG v Nor
Day 9:-Reserve Day
NO FINALS SHOULD BE THERE TO AVOID A FLUKE QUALIFICATION.
juro
U19 12th Man
That's why the World Cricket League is so elegant. It does not expect team 1 to play team 40, or vice versa. Team 40 would be massacred and team 1 would be wasting their time even being there.
In WCL, team 40 would play teams 37, 38, ... The competition would be relatively even, leading to close games, excitement, gradual learning and improvement, instead of amateur teams, emerging countries being put to the sword by the professionals.
And if teams are good enough, they rise to the higher level. If not, they fall back to their more appropriate level. We have seen Afghanistan rise to virtually the top of the non test nations in only a few years. Teams like Fiji are headed in the other direction, but that is okay too. They can rise again if good enough in the future.
And if teams are good enough, they get all the way to the World Cup. A clear path was set for every nation from 1 to 105, knowing what was required to reach the top.
The ICC almost got it perfect. The only thing missing is that the full member nations are a protected species. They are not allowed to fall from the top rung, even if their on-field form warrants it.
... and then the ICC threw it all away.
In WCL, team 40 would play teams 37, 38, ... The competition would be relatively even, leading to close games, excitement, gradual learning and improvement, instead of amateur teams, emerging countries being put to the sword by the professionals.
And if teams are good enough, they rise to the higher level. If not, they fall back to their more appropriate level. We have seen Afghanistan rise to virtually the top of the non test nations in only a few years. Teams like Fiji are headed in the other direction, but that is okay too. They can rise again if good enough in the future.
And if teams are good enough, they get all the way to the World Cup. A clear path was set for every nation from 1 to 105, knowing what was required to reach the top.
The ICC almost got it perfect. The only thing missing is that the full member nations are a protected species. They are not allowed to fall from the top rung, even if their on-field form warrants it.
... and then the ICC threw it all away.