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*Official* Australia in India 2010

Ikki

Hall of Fame Member
You have to win almost every test series home & away 90+% o the time to be considered # 1. Thats past #1 below did:

- England 1951-1958
- Windies 1963-68/69
- Windies 1976-1991
- AUS 95-2006/07
We only beat the Indians in India in one series during the period above. And overall against them, we didn't win near 90% of those series away and at home. I think my point stands.
 
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AaronK

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This message is for Ian Chappell

I was running naked and yelling while celebrating India's win..and it gives me a great pleasure watching Aus crashing in to defeat.. this one was actually special because it was a white wash.. clean sweep.. 2-0...

next time maybe keep your al mighty Aus Ego in control because every team goes through this stage as win and lose is part of the game..
 

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I criticized Dhoni for his keeping in the last match but he was, by and large, excellent this time. The stumping of Clarke was absolutely brilliant.
 

social

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I criticized Dhoni for his keeping in the last match but he was, by and large, excellent this time. The stumping of Clarke was absolutely brilliant.
I could've stumped Clarke - he literally never got back into his crease
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
We only beat the Indians in India in one series during the period above. And overall, we didn't win near 90% of those series away and at home. I think my point stands.
AUS lost or drew 5 series (IND 98 & 2001, Ashes 05, NZ 01/2, SRI 99) out of 41 full test series excluding only tests. Thats about 87% winning ratio home & away.

But lets not dwell on percentage ratio, since that complicated things. The best teams/# 1 should be good enough to win home & away the vast majority of the time & those past great teams listed certainly did that.
 

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I could've stumped Clarke - he literally never got back into his crease
He whipped the bails off in one fluid motion, even if Clarke had been aware he was out of his ground and tried to push his foot back I reckon it would have been too late.
 

Ikki

Hall of Fame Member
AUS lost or drew 5 series (IND 98 & 2001, Ashes 05, NZ 01/2, SRI 99) out of 41 full test series excluding only tests. Thats about 87% winning ratio home & away.

But lets not dwell on percentage ratio, since that complicated things. The best teams/# 1 should be good enough to win home & away the vast majority of the time & those past great teams listed certainly did that.
I meant against India*. We've only beaten them once at home (even at our all-time best) and drew a lot of other series home and away. We're closer to 50% series wins than 90% against them.

*I even edited my post before you replied.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
I meant against India*. We've only beaten them once at home (even at our all-time best) and drew a lot of other series home and away. We're closer to 50% series wins than 90% against them.

*I even edited my post before you replied.
AUS struggles in India & vs spin in the sub-continent in general during the glory days was just one the achillies heel of the great team for the majority of that period, until that was corrected in SRI & IND 2004. Which is one of the reasons why the windies great team of 76-91 is rated above AUS 95-06/07, since they had no such glaring weakness.

So although percentage wise IND gave AUS the stiffest competition, thats all it was really. Just like how PAK gave windies of 76-91 their stiffest competition. The vast majority of the time AUS where able to win everywherre home & away without muss fuss.
 

Ikki

Hall of Fame Member
AUS struggles in India & vs spin in the sub-continent in general during the glory days was just one the achillies heel of the great team for the majority of that period, until that was corrected in SRI & IND 2004. Which is one of the reasons why the windies great team of 76-91 is rated above AUS 95-06/07, since they had no such glaring weakness.

So although percentage wise IND gave AUS the stiffest competition, thats all it was really. Just like how PAK gave windies of 76-91 their stiffest competition. The vast majority of the time AUS where able to win everywherre home & away without muss fuss.
Yeah but India is wholly relevant. That is where tis discussion took off. An Aus member said we could have been better in some areas and we'd be #1. Well, it doesn't mean he was trying to disrespect India because even at #1 we still didn't win in India much. When it was said that by saying we'd be #1 he was "definitively" assuming as such.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
Yeah but India is wholly relevant. That is where tis discussion took off. An Aus member said we could have been better in some areas and we'd be #1. Well, it doesn't mean he was trying to disrespect India because even at #1 we still didn't win in India much. When it was said that by saying we'd be #1 he was "definitively" assuming as such.
Oh ok. Well yea winning in IND since they became a force @ home in the 90s has always been super difficult. Much crappier Indian teams of the 90s/early 2000s compared to current IND side beat strong opposition @ home.

So conquering them just once is/was good enough.
 

angad

U19 12th Man
Shaun Marsh? Injured? I saw him playing in IPL 1 and he was awesome, what happened? call-up into the Test squad? :wacko:
 

Ikki

Hall of Fame Member
Oh ok. Well yea winning in IND since they became a force @ home in the 90s has always been super difficult. Much crappier Indian teams of the 90s/early 2000s compared to current IND side beat strong opposition @ home.

So conquering them just once is/was good enough.
It wouldn't matter though. We'd still be #1 even if we hadn't. We were from 95-04 clearly the best team, and we hadn't beaten India at home.
 

Pup Clarke

Cricketer Of The Year
Anyone have any news on Ryan Harris's injury? I'd have him as a lock for the Ashes personally, replacing Hauritz, looks quality.
 

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Anyone have any news on Ryan Harris's injury? I'd have him as a lock for the Ashes personally, replacing Hauritz, looks quality.
Knee again. Going to find it hard to come back and play consistently enough to be selected, tbh.
 

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He whipped the bails off in one fluid motion, even if Clarke had been aware he was out of his ground and tried to push his foot back I reckon it would have been too late.
I expect a good 11-year-old keeper to collect and have the bails off in what looks like one motion. If we want to get into technicalities it ought to be two motions as you are collecting the ball and then instantly transferring the weight down back to the stumps: the skill is to cushion and give on the initial take without moving your hands back and away.

It was a fairly routine bit of glovework and I can pretty confidently say that I - as an average-to-poor club keeper - have pulled off better stumpings when I've been faced with batsmen temporarily overbalancing. Good keeping, but nothing to get excited about.
 
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howardj

International Coach
There is nothing wrong.

We should do what we did after we lost the Ashes in 2009 (even though England were without a fit Flintoff and Pietersen for the balance of the series).

That is, we should re-appoint our coach and extend the contract of Hilditch.

We should also retain Hussey and North.

Move along, nothing wrong here.
 

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