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Scorecard Draft
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weldone
Hall of Fame Member
I called Gilchrist, Headley, Lohmann, Benaud and Boycott all-time greats. All of the 5 are widely respected around the cricketing world. I think everybody except you might accept that. However, I didn't call Headley the best batsman the world has ever produced, or something like that. There's a distinct difference between the two, common-sense will tell you that.
On a side note, it seems that your choices are quite opposite to mine sometimes. From the ratings that you did for ODI Auction Draft, I remember Marcus Trescothick's X-factor moves you, but Inzamam's don't. I'll pay thousand times more to see Inzamam on full flow than I'll pay to see Marcus on full flow. So, I'm not too surprised that you disagree with me on this point also.
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honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Benaud is not an ATG, AFAIC. Perhaps not Boycott either.
weldone
Hall of Fame Member
They certainly are, unless your all-time great list consists 25 cricketers, or so. Mine contains more.
Benaud's legacy as a leg-spin bowling alrounder and an Aussie captain is beyond dispute. So is Boycott's legacy as an opener. They are still remembered, and will be in future - at least by me.
I don't see the point you guys are making. Calling Sehwag an all-time great is fine, but calling Boycott so isn't! Calling Marsh the (not one of the) best wicketkeeper of all-time is fine, but making a point about Benaud's legacy as a cricketer isn't! Lauding Marcus Trescothick's X-factor as an ODI opener is fine, but recognizing Inzamam's grace isn't! Not recognizing WG Grace's alround ability is fine! I doubt whether we watch the same sport.
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weldone
Hall of Fame Member
That's a bit debatable, though that's a better way of putting it. By the way, would you mind citing some examples of what you've read, and from where?
However, whether or not he was THE best wicketkeeper of all-time isn't debatable at all.
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honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
yeah, tbf, my list of ATGs would be very less.. like 30 or 35.. And I don't think these guys will figure there. Fair enough if you rate them more leniently.
weldone
Hall of Fame Member
Fair enough, then (though both of them will be on the verge of making it to the best 35 anyways, but it's an arguable case I agree).
This 'all-time great' term is so subjective. By 'all-time great' I meant among 45-50 best cricketers of all-time.
HeathDavisSpeed
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
By all-time great, I mean Mike Garnham. QED.
kingkallis
International Coach
And so does your claims about Benaud and BoycsThat's a bit debatable, though that's a better way of putting it. By the way, would you mind citing some examples of what you've read, and from where?
However, whether or not he was THE best wicketkeeper of all-time isn't debatable at all.
Thats 2 against 1
weldone
Hall of Fame Member
Boycott (according to me) is among top 7-8 openers of all-time, surely (arguably among top 6).
Benaud (according to me) is among top 4-5 spin bowling alrounders, surely.
Calling them ATG's is a NO-NO in CW !!!
Oh you forgot! Boycott averages below 50! Huh a doddler nowadays averages over 50! He probably couldn't hold a bat at all!
Benaud is old anyways! International cricket was club-standard those days! We don't recognize any cricketer that old except Bradman, Sobers, Hobbs and Barnes! Our list of top 50 cricketers consists of those 4 old people and another 46 who played in last 30 years!
We are smart people you know!
Benaud (according to me) is among top 4-5 spin bowling alrounders, surely.
Calling them ATG's is a NO-NO in CW !!!
Oh you forgot! Boycott averages below 50! Huh a doddler nowadays averages over 50! He probably couldn't hold a bat at all!
Benaud is old anyways! International cricket was club-standard those days! We don't recognize any cricketer that old except Bradman, Sobers, Hobbs and Barnes! Our list of top 50 cricketers consists of those 4 old people and another 46 who played in last 30 years!
We are smart people you know!
kingkallis
International Coach
Joe, go ahead and pick your ground! Seems like JTRC / Riggns and Shri both missed their turn...
HeathDavisSpeed
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Which, funnily enough, is what Mike Garnham does for a living these days.
kingkallis
International Coach
Calm doan yaar...relax!
Now we know about Hammonds and Huttons and Warrels and Headleys and Pollocks and Barringtons too...
weldone
Hall of Fame Member
Wow, that's great news!
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kingkallis
International Coach
*ignored*
weldone
Hall of Fame Member
That might be according to you, Marcuss.
But according to me, every team has quite a few all-time greats, my team has 5. A few teams have even more. And there are a few teams here which I consider better than mine (unlike the ODI Auction Draft, of course).
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