Greatest cricketers since 1980

[Ikki]

FFS they're his ****ing rankings. If you don't agree make your own.

 

[bagapath]

Border should be at level 1.

I know. he continues to be one of my heroes for close to 30 years. grit. blood. sweat. never say die spirit. but, while he achieved as much in test cricket as the other six guys in level 1, his playing style kind of puts him a fraction below the all round brilliance of the other master batsmen. border relied a lot on his bread and butter shots - the pull, the cut and the sweep. no flourish. no pomp. no magic. of course, i would love to have him bat for my life. more than anyone else in the world. but he didn't take the art of batting to another level like lara or sachin or viv. as we go higher and higher up the ladder it should get tougher and tougher. border misses out level 1 by a whisker.

 

[vcs]

There are very few batsmen with whom it's a joke to compare Sehwag with and Sangakkara certainly isn't one of them.

 

[bagapath]

Sehwag's bad has been apallingly bad, compared to Sanga. Who averages 34+ in every country. Sehwag has sub 30 averages in some conditions.

Still, Sehwag over Sanga is a joke, and a player who has not sub 40 averages in four countries cannot be in the same category with Dravid.

wud love to see ur rankings migara

 

[Shri]

Easy enough. Check statsguru.

 

[bagapath]

had a nice long break from work. and cricketweb as always is a fun place to relax. have to go away for a while again after tomorrow. will post my bowling list tomorrow and vanish.

 

[Furball]

I know. he continues to be one of my heroes for close to 30 years. grit. blood. sweat. never say die spirit. but, while he achieved as much in test cricket as the other six guys in level 1, his playing style kind of puts him a fraction below the all round brilliance of the other master batsmen. border relied a lot on his bread and butter shots - the pull, the cut and the sweep. no flourish. no pomp. no magic. of course, i would love to have him bat for my life. more than anyone else in the world. but he didn't take the art of batting to another level like lara or sachin or viv. as we go higher and higher up the ladder it should get tougher and tougher. border misses out level 1 by a whisker.

Fair enough, given that it's your list, but in terms of toughing it out against the best attacks world cricket had to offer, in a piss poor team for a lot of his career, you don't get much tougher than Border. Of the rest of your level one, only Lara has done similar.

 

[Sir Alex]

Fair enough, given that it's your list, but in terms of toughing it out against the best attacks world cricket had to offer, in a piss poor team for a lot of his career, you don't get much tougher than Border. Of the rest of your level one, only Lara has done similar.

Sachin too.. esp from his debut till about 2001..

 

[Furball]

Sachin too.. esp from his debut till about 2001..

No.

 

[Shri]

Yeah, mentioning Sachin as soon as the names Poontang or Lara are mentioned. Flavor of the month.

 

[Sir Alex]

No.

Yep.

1999 series in Australia being the prime example.

 

[Sir Alex]

Yeah, mentioning Sachin as soon as the names Poontang or Lara are mentioned. Flavor of the month.

It helps a discussion better if smart arse wannabe comments like these can be avoided. Kthxbye.

 

[bagapath]

Greatest bowlers since 1980

Level 1

Malcolm Marshall
Glenn Mcgrath
Shane Warne
Mutthiah Muralitharan
Imran Khan
Richard Hadlee

Level 2

Dennis Lillee
Curtley Ambrose
Joel Garner
Michael Holding
Wasim Akram
Allan Donald
Ian Botham
Waqar Younis
Dale Steyn

Level 3

Shaun Pollock
Courtney Walsh
Anil Kumble
Saqlain Mushtaq
Craig Mcdermott
Kapil Dev
Iqbal Qasim
Bob Willis
Ian Bishop
Bruce Reid

Level 4

Jason Gillespie
Abdul Qadir
Merv Hughes
Chaminda Vaas
Shoab Akhthar
Harbhajan Singh
Makhaya Ntini
Darren Gough
Chris Cairns
Stuart Mcgill

 

[nightprowler10]

Not that I can stand the ****, but Akhtar in level 4 seems wrong.

 

[vcs]

No Brett Lee?

 

[Dissector]

Personally I would put Ambrose in 1, Warne in 2 , Botham in 3, Iqbal Qasim in 4 and Shoaib Akhtar in 3.

 

[Ikki]

Lillee not in level 1?

 

[bagapath]

No Brett Lee?

wanted him in level 3 or 4 but didnt know who to sacrifice. chiris cairns almost lost out. but kept him finally and dropped lee

 

[bagapath]

Lillee not in level 1?

this list is from from 1980 onwards. he would be in first level if his 1970s performances were taken into account.

 

[Avada Kedavra]

Wasim Akram and Waqar in level 2 is just wrong..they are every bit as good as anyone in level 1....Shaun Pollock should at least be in level 2....