*Official* Pakistan in England 2010

[GIMH]

Get a move on

Have to go out at half six and wanna see at least three Pak wickets

 

[GIMH]

That's better

 

[King Pietersen]

That's more like it. They better declare as soon as Prior gets to his century. Could do with half an hour at 'em tonight.

 

[King Pietersen]

Oh no, here we go, back to mindless cricket. Finn back on strike for the last 5 balls of the over. Brilliant.

 

[Athlai]

It's day 3 and England need every single run they can get and time isn't an issue. WTF are you on about sure they've probably got enough but no sense in not doing this and making it all the more certain.

 

[pasag]

That's more like it. They better declare as soon as Prior gets to his century. Could do with half an hour at 'em tonight.

It's day 3...

 

[Sir Alex]

Yeah bamboozling argument about declaring and getting in Paks tonight. I'd say with thecurrent Pak batting lineup, and the conditions, it is best to have a go at them early tomorrow with fresh bowlers. Meanwhile just aim for lead maximisation today.

 

[Furball]

But England need to start winning away matches to be considered a contender to No 1.

               Ind      SA       SL       Aus      Eng      Pak      WI       NZ
India            -      L 1-2    L 1-2    L 1-2    W 1-0      -        -      W 1-0  
South Africa   D 1-1      -        -      W 2-1    W 2-1    W 1-0    W 2-0      -
Sri Lanka      L 0-2      -        -      L 0-2    D 1-1    D 0-0    D 1-1      -                                                                  D 1-1
Australia      L 0-2    W 2-1      -       -       L 1-2      -      W 2-0    W 2-0
England        L 0-1    D 1-1    L 0-1    L 0-5      -        -      L 0-1    W 2-1
Pakistan       L 0-1    L 1-2    L 0-2    L 0-3    L 0-3      -        -      D 1-1
West Indies      -      L 1-2      -      L 0-2    L 0-2    L 0-2      -      D 0-0
New Zealand      -      L 0-2    L 0-2    L 0-2    L 0-2      -        -        -

Not many sides are winning away from home against other top 5 sides: that's the record in the last 4 years (most recent series taken into account)

 

[Prince EWS]

There is absolutely no point in declaring now. If Pakistan bat out the rest of the game they'll comfortably pass England's total.

 

[King Pietersen]

We're 422 runs ahead, we don't need anymore. It might be day 3, but you never know what's going to happen with the weather in the final 2 days. We seem to do this so often, where we're in a great position but then plod along wasting time blocking trying to get a batsman to a century. If Prior was controlling the strike and clobbering them all over the shop I wouldn't mind, but where's the logic in allowing Finn to block out 5 balls an over? Warne just made a great point too, declaring tonight gives you 2 bites of the cherry with the new ball. The openers are fresh against the new ball twice, instead of just the once in the morning tomorrow, giving you more of a chance to nip 'em out. If they're waiting for Prior to get his century, I wish he'd just get on with it, and get there quickly.

 

[grecian]

It's day 3 and England need every single run they can get and time isn't an issue. WTF are you on about sure they've probably got enough but no sense in not doing this and making it all the more certain.

Totally agree with this, don't see any problem with it myself, score as many as possible, IMHO.

 

[Sir Alex]

               Ind      SA       SL       Aus      Eng      Pak      WI       NZ
India            -      L 1-2    L 1-2    L 1-2    W 1-0      -        -      W 1-0  
South Africa   D 1-1      -        -      W 2-1    W 2-1    W 1-0    W 2-0      -
Sri Lanka      L 0-2      -        -      L 0-2    D 1-1    D 0-0    D 1-1      -                                                                  D 1-1
Australia      L 0-2    W 2-1      -       -       L 1-2      -      W 2-0    W 2-0
England        L 0-1    D 1-1    L 0-1    L 0-5      -        -      L 0-1    W 2-1
Pakistan       L 0-1    L 1-2    L 0-2    L 0-3    L 0-3      -        -      D 1-1
West Indies      -      L 1-2      -      L 0-2    L 0-2    L 0-2      -      D 0-0
New Zealand      -      L 0-2    L 0-2    L 0-2    L 0-2      -        -        -

Not many sides are winning away from home against other top 5 sides: that's the record in the last 4 years (most recent series taken into account)

Agreed, but England's away record looks like 3 wins and 10 losses there, with 2 of them against NZ which is a weaker side than itself.

 

[Fusion]

There is absolutely no point in declaring now. If Pakistan bat out the rest of the game they'll comfortably pass England's total.

There's 0% chance though of Pak batting the rest of the match out. I would declare and get a couple wickets tonight and finish off the rest tomorrow.

 

[GIMH]

There is absolutely no point in declaring now. If Pakistan bat out the rest of the game they'll comfortably pass England's total.

So? Getting them in tonight after a day in the field is preferable to them opening up tomorrow morning

Plus there's no point batting for the sake of it. Grind them into the ground and get the game done IMO.

 

[King Pietersen]

There are 20 overs left in the day. 12 overs bowling at them tonight is the perfect opportunity to nip one out tonight. The last thing the Pakistani openers want is to have to run back to the changing room to get their pads on tonight, but they're not going to be made to do that if we keep plodding along with Finn blocking. I'm all for clocking up the runs, but they're not doing that. Prior's taking a single and then watching Finn block for 5 balls. How is that helping England in the slightest?

 

[Fusion]

So? Getting them in tonight after a day in the field is preferable to them opening up tomorrow morning

Plus there's no point batting for the sake of it. Grind them into the ground and get the game done IMO.

Yeah that's my thinking as well. I would want to send a message that we didn't just comprehensively beat you, we absolutely annihalated you.

 

[pasag]

Or they could bat well tonight for the loss of no wicket and have a much more manageable 350 starting tomorrow. There's no logic declaring now.

 

[Jacknife]

Some of the singles Prior has taken looked 2's but that was always a single.
And again.

 

[Sir Alex]

Got to love English cricketing crowd.

 

[King Pietersen]

They're chasing 430 on a pitch with variable bounce, in perfect conditions for swing bowling and on a deck that is sure to offer some assistance to Graeme Swann. They're not going to win. Might as well give ourselves an extra 12 overs to bowl at them tonight.