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The Best of The Rest - NZ, WI, Pak, Bang in tests

Who is the best test team of these teams?


  • Total voters
    51

WindieWeathers

International Regular
Why shouldn't I include the series against Bangladesh?
Surely you're aware that all of our first and seconde team players were on strike when we played Bang and we pretty much had to scrape the bottom of the barrel to get a team together? :huh: even the worst WI critics digress that shambles GF.
 

Teja.

Global Moderator
I can understand if an overtly passionate WI fan might think their team is as good as the Pak team. However, If one thinks Sulieman Benn is a better spinner than Vettori or Shakib or Kaneria, he is transcending the thin line between patriotism and stupidity IMO.
 

WindieWeathers

International Regular
Because substantial posts are wasted you. No matter what people say to you, you just spout off a load of bull**** that fits what you're saying when everybody else is telling you you're wrong.
Keep fighting the good fight though. WI4#1
Just like a toddler when they don't get their way they cry and cry and cry again!! 8-).. your constant moans are getting extremely tiresome, if you really don't like me having a different opinion to yours and the "millions" you seem to want to speak for you know what? TOUGH LUCK!! :laugh: .
 

WindieWeathers

International Regular
I can understand if an overtly passionate WI fan might think their team is as good as the Pak team. However, If one thinks Sulieman Benn is a better spinner than Vettori or Shakib or Kaneria, he is transcending the thin line between patriotism and stupidity IMO.
Jesus why don't people actually take the time to read posts properly? i said Benn's current form is better than the others!! 8-), which it most likely is, what have people got against Benn anyway? blimey you'd think he'd slept with some posters wives or something!! :laugh: .
 

Teja.

Global Moderator
Jesus why don't people actually take the time to read posts properly? i said Benn's current form is better than the others!! 8-), which it most likely is, what have people got against Benn anyway? blimey you'd think he'd slept with some posters wives or something!! :laugh: .
Uncalled for, Offensive and worst of all, not even funny.
 

WindieWeathers

International Regular
Uncalled for, Offensive and worst of all, not even funny.
Erm..

I can understand if an overtly passionate WI fan might think their team is as good as the Pak team. However, If one thinks Sulieman Benn is a better spinner than Vettori or Shakib or Kaneria, he is transcending the thin line between patriotism and stupidity IMO.

Uncalled for, Offensive and worst of all, not even funny!! 8-) .
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Jesus why don't people actually take the time to read posts properly? i said Benn's current form is better than the others!! 8-), which it most likely is, what have people got against Benn anyway? blimey you'd think he'd slept with some posters wives or something!! :laugh: .
That's the thing though - it isn't better, but you refuse to see it.
 

Jarquis

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Just like a toddler when they don't get their way they cry and cry and cry again!! 8-).. your constant moans are getting extremely tiresome, if you really don't like me having a different opinion to yours and the "millions" you seem to want to speak for you know what? TOUGH LUCK!! :laugh: .
They're not constant, by and large I try to avoid reading any of your posts, or threads you've posted in because they turn into trainwrecks, like this one. Though when I do open a thread, that has the potential to hold some real good discussion it's ****ing annoying to have to filter through all your ****, so time to time I'll let you know about it.
You're entitled to believe whatever you want to, but quite frankly you're wrong. I'm not speaking on behalf of millions, I'm reiterating what many before me have already said, just check the poll ffs. It's infront of you and you're too one-eyed to see the god damn think. I wish you'd wake up or **** off.
 

Migara

International Coach
I would agree with WW on Benn that he has been possibly the third best test spinner in the world behind Murali and Swann. But, I would bet my 2 cents on Kaneria and Ajmal to gallop pass him.
 

WindieWeathers

International Regular
They're not constant, by and large I try to avoid reading any of your posts, or threads you've posted in because they turn into trainwrecks, like this one. Though when I do open a thread, that has the potential to hold some real good discussion it's ****ing annoying to have to filter through all your ****, so time to time I'll let you know about it.
You're entitled to believe whatever you want to, but quite frankly you're wrong. I'm not speaking on behalf of millions, I'm reiterating what many before me have already said, just check the poll ffs. It's infront of you and you're too one-eyed to see the god damn think. I wish you'd wake up or **** off.
It just seems like everytime i have a debate you stick your nose in and have another sob about what i'm apparently "doing wrong" :unsure: , it's boring and quite frankly i really don't care about what you think, i was over it after the 100th time you had a "moan", if the majority believe Pak are better then that's their business, I DON'T and i'm sticking with that opinion whether you like it or not.

You can call me the "bad guy" all you like but it's not me who's got personal with others and spouted abuse!!, but i guess you didn't see that because your not the biased type of course!! 8-) ,
 

WindieWeathers

International Regular
I would agree with WW on Benn that he has been possibly the third best test spinner in the world behind Murali and Swann. But, I would bet my 2 cents on Kaneria and Ajmal to gallop pass him.
THANK YOU!!, finally someone is talking sense without being biased!!, Benn helped us win against England, done well in Aus and alongside Steyn took the heighest amount of wickets in the Sa test series (15) so it's madness to suggest he hasn't been one of the best spinners in the game of late.
 

Noble One

International Vice-Captain
It makes an interesting discussion as to who is the best spinner in the world behind Murali and Swann. Very even contest.

Like many others I don't rate Benn anything more than a workhorse spinner who will never be classed any greater than serviceable. Hard to even say if he is the most in-form out of Kaneria, Vettori, Hasan and Hauritz considering he has only played 3 Tests this year, what more on a couple of pitches tailor made for spin-bowling. I don't consider it a good argument showing how many wickets he takes, I would expect any half-decent spinner to take 4 for's and 5 for's if they are constantly bowling 40+ over’s an innings.

Who do the West Indies play next? I believe they play in Sri Lanka, that will be a good sign to how Benn stacks up against some of the young Sri Lankan spinners.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
When you take the level of the opposition into account i'd suggest IT IS!!, but your too naive to see it.
Kaneria's played 9 games in that period, 4 vs Aus, 2 vs NZ and 3 vs SL - he's taken 40 wickets @ 36.32, so only 2 fewer wickets in 2 fewer games and at a better average whilst playing harder opponents when it comes to abilities against spin.
 

WindieWeathers

International Regular
Kaneria's played 9 games in that period, 4 vs Aus, 2 vs NZ and 3 vs SL - he's taken 40 wickets @ 36.32, so only 2 fewer wickets in 2 fewer games and at a better average whilst playing harder opponents when it comes to abilities against spin.
Two Tests against your beloved England (one away), one against Aus (away) and another against SA, sorry but Benn clearly faced the tougher opposition.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
Surely you're aware that all of our first and seconde team players were on strike when we played Bang and we pretty much had to scrape the bottom of the barrel to get a team together? :huh: even the worst WI critics digress that shambles GF.
Roach, Richards and Dowlin have remained around the side, Best and Hinds had already played Tests. They should have been good enough to beat Bangladesh.
 

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
Yeah. that's my whole ****ing point you moron. You have no problem rating a player based on what he's done in the last three test matches but you do when it comes to teams. Laughable really.
Not appropriate to resort to abuse such as the above. Please refrain from it in the future.
 

Flem274*

123/5
Then do something about the troll.

If you argue against WW being a downer on the forum atmosphere, I'm going to start laughing.
 

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