WindieWeathers
International Regular
So comparing a batsman who's been facing Bang of late to a batsman who has had to take on England, Aus and Sa in the last 18 months is fair? yeah of course it is!!
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The Best of The Rest - NZ, WI, Pak, Bang in tests
- Thread starter Jezroy
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WindieWeathers
International Regular
Two years ago is 2008!!. we beat England in 2009 so at least it's only LAST YEAR!!
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Jezroy
State Captain
I would have thought that plenty of international cricketers would face more than their fair share of Bang?So comparing a batsman who's been facing Bang of late to a batsman who has had to take on England, Aus and Sa in the last 18 months is fair? yeah of course it is!!
Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
Slightly off topic but in terms of what ifs and new zealand's potential.
If McCullum comes good, if Williamson pans out. Then that will give us 5 batsman counting Vettori who can contribute. Today we have 4 batsman when Ryder is fit. This is not a major upgrade.
If fairy dust gets sprinkled over the NZ team turning lead into gold then Hopkins might average 30 with the bat out of the number 8 spot. Giving us 6 batsman who can do something. 6 batsman would be enough for us to start being more consistent but not good enough to beat anyone in the top 5.
I took hope when I read your post that Flynn was working with Martin Crowe. Because I think for us to improve to be ranked 4th or 5th best in the world then we need one more player, other than the current contracted players, to come into the picture who can average 40 with the bat. I am not saying I have any hopes for Flynn, I am just hoping someone else from domestic cricket will step up.
If McCullum comes good, if Williamson pans out. Then that will give us 5 batsman counting Vettori who can contribute. Today we have 4 batsman when Ryder is fit. This is not a major upgrade.
If fairy dust gets sprinkled over the NZ team turning lead into gold then Hopkins might average 30 with the bat out of the number 8 spot. Giving us 6 batsman who can do something. 6 batsman would be enough for us to start being more consistent but not good enough to beat anyone in the top 5.
I took hope when I read your post that Flynn was working with Martin Crowe. Because I think for us to improve to be ranked 4th or 5th best in the world then we need one more player, other than the current contracted players, to come into the picture who can average 40 with the bat. I am not saying I have any hopes for Flynn, I am just hoping someone else from domestic cricket will step up.
Jezroy
State Captain
England won the Football World Cup in 1966 and they still go on about that too...Two years ago is 2008!!. we beat England in 2009 so at least it's only LAST YEAR!!
Please note also 18 months ago is last year, 19 months ago is 2008. Not a great difference to be fair.
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Flem274*
123/5
Tbh I think Andy McKay is the dark horse in the world class player tables. Left arm fast swing bowler who can also get some nice bounce. Then there is Southee with right arm fast medium swing. They're a nice partnership.
Lollin at the batting tables over the page. Shows just how gun Taylor. Vettori and McCullum have been with the bat recently. Add in Ryder and Williamson and who knows.
Need some bloody openers though *broken record*
Lollin at the batting tables over the page. Shows just how gun Taylor. Vettori and McCullum have been with the bat recently. Add in Ryder and Williamson and who knows.
Need some bloody openers though *broken record*
WindieWeathers
International Regular
We bowled out England for 51, SA twice and i think Aus twice too (one was for 150) so i'd be inclined to believe our bowling attack is much better than NZ's and not much worse than Pak's even though i accept their's is better right now, i also think people are down playing how weak Pak's batting order has been lately, you only have to look at their performance last week to see how bad it is and it was shocking in Aus too!!.
Gayle
Barath
Sarwan
Chanders
Samuel/Nash/Deo/Darren Bravo
Dwayne Bravo
It doesn't matter what combination we put out there Nz and Pak can't compete with that batting power, and when you consider that we've bowled three of the best teams out more than once over the past 18 months then it would suggest we aren't too bad in the bowling department either.
NUFAN
Y no Afghanistan flag
1 Tamim Iqbal
2 Chris Gayle
3 Ramnaresh Sarwan
4 Ross Taylor
5 Shivnarine Chanderpaul
6 Shakib Al Hasan
7 Brendon McCullum
8 Daniel Vettori (c)
9 Jerome Taylor
10 Mohammed Amir
11 Mohammed Asif
That would be a nice team!
But seriously, this is very tough to pick a winner. NZ will always be the most consistent of the teams. Pakistan need Khan and Yousuf, if they had them both, they would win out of this group easily.
I look forward to seeing these countries play a few Tests against each other to sort it out.
2 Chris Gayle
3 Ramnaresh Sarwan
4 Ross Taylor
5 Shivnarine Chanderpaul
6 Shakib Al Hasan
7 Brendon McCullum
8 Daniel Vettori (c)
9 Jerome Taylor
10 Mohammed Amir
11 Mohammed Asif
That would be a nice team!
But seriously, this is very tough to pick a winner. NZ will always be the most consistent of the teams. Pakistan need Khan and Yousuf, if they had them both, they would win out of this group easily.
I look forward to seeing these countries play a few Tests against each other to sort it out.
WindieWeathers
International Regular
When you've played less matches than the others that can happen.
Flem274*
123/5
But when you were down here we did compete with that batting power...
WindieWeathers
International Regular
Different side back then, no Barath, no Deonarine, no Samuels, we never had Roach in the bowling unit either.
Jezroy
State Captain
Plus West Indies haven't beaten NZ in a test for 15 years. I'm so glad I figured that one out.
WindieWeathers
International Regular
Our lot didn't have the chance last time because they were too busy being on strike and arguing with the WICB!!I would have thought that plenty of international cricketers would face more than their fair share of Bang?
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Jezroy
State Captain
Great team - cept now McCullum isn't going to keep in tests.
But that is a really good team and I think shows in no uncertain terms where each teams strength lies.
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I agree, but it's been way too long since our last tour of WI. I don't think we've been there since 2002!
Jezroy
State Captain
Think you missed my joke. It was a ***ual reference to international cricketers getting some of the good stuff from the ladies.Our lot didn't have the chance last time because they were too busy being on strike and arguing with the WICB!!
Just trying to lighten the load.
If you know what I mean.
Jezroy
State Captain
NUFAN
Y no Afghanistan flag
I knew that but when naming the team I didn't even think twice about naming McCullum, force of habit I guess.
It's a difficult decision though between Akmal, Ramdin and Rahim.
Kamran Akmal has looked very solid behind the stumps in the current series against Australia, so I guess he's the logical pick, I really rate Rahim though.
WindieWeathers
International Regular
I've heard it all now!!
, you were a better team in 2008 when we toured NZ and still you couldn't beat us, since then we've beaten England and one could argue NZ have gone backwards, i'd bet any money that NZ wouldn't beat us whether it's home or away, in the Caribbean they'd do well to even draw a test imo, we might have taken a few hits against SA recently but NZ aren't SA.