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Battle of Cricketers - CW's Favorite Cricketer

Athlai

Athlai

Not Terrible
weldone said:
And I'll definitely vote for at least 15 other spin bowlers over Vettori, because I give a **** to how the most over-rated spinner of all-time behaves off the field. My uncle behaves better than Vettori off the field.

Yeah, I can understand when it's between Sachin and Lara, or between Waqar and Ambrose, or between Warne and Grimmett, or Hadlee and Lillee (or Hutton and Gavaskar) people might vote on the basis of so many things...But not when it's between Vettori and Bradman, or between Devang Gandhi and Garfield Sobers, please. I hate to see CW members making a joke of themselves. My experience here says that they are better than that.
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Na don't agree with this at all, ability is only one way of choosing your favorite. Since its such a subjective thing you are welcome to your opinion but you can get on your bike if you think CW members are "making a joke of themselves" by voting on different lines to you.

It's the favorite cricketer, not the best or greatest.
 
Jezroy

Jezroy

State Captain
weldone said:
And I'll definitely vote for at least 15 other spin bowlers over Vettori, because I give a **** to how the most over-rated spinner of all-time behaves off the field. My uncle behaves better than Vettori off the field.
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If you are going to give everyone that... reasons please?

And I would have thought Warne (one of THE greatest spinners of all time) would have shown us that off the field behaviour has nothing to do with on the field talent. It might affect how much people like him, but didn't really seem to affect his talent.
 
TumTum

TumTum

Banned
I agree with weldone. The most likely winner of this thing would be:

Marshall - Because nobody has seen him bowl
Sachin - Because of his humility
Some **** NZ player - Because they never win anything

Lame
 
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weldone

weldone

Hall of Fame Member
Athlai said:
Na don't agree with this at all, ability is only one way of choosing your favorite. Since its such a subjective thing you are welcome to your opinion but you can get on your bike if you think CW members are "making a joke of themselves" by voting on different lines to you.

It's the favorite cricketer, not the best or greatest.
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OK answer this question for me. Would you vote for Mr. Daniel Vettori over almost anyone had he been the same person (on- and off- the field) but played for Australia in the 1930's?
 
Athlai

Athlai

Not Terrible
weldone said:
OK answer this question for me. Would you vote for Mr. Daniel Vettori over almost anyone had he been the same person (on- and off- the field) but played for Australia in the 1930's?
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If I knew that player and had followed his career.

If this were movies would you vote for a film you didn't see as your favorite? Na. Though you may be able to appreciate that a film you may not have seen like Citizen Kane is regarded as one of the greatest, but that doesn't make it your favorite.
 
weldone

weldone

Hall of Fame Member
Athlai said:
If I knew that player and had followed his career.

If this were movies would you vote for a film you didn't see as your favorite? Na. Though you may be able to appreciate that a film you may not have seen like Citizen Kane is regarded as one of the greatest, but that doesn't make it your favorite.
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Regarding your first para, had he been a bowler of the same calibre as Vettori, you certainly wouldn't have known too much about him in that case.

Regarding your second para, incidentally CK is one among my favorites, and so are many movies of Welles, Chaplin, Hitchcock, Kubrick, Scorsese and Spielberg. And if somebody chooses Independence Day as his/her all-time favorite hollywood movie, I would rather prefer not to discuss too much about films with that person. But, what will sadden me more is if that person is a long-time member of one of the best movie communities and has seen all the movies by the above-mentioned directors.
 
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Athlai

Athlai

Not Terrible
But we aren't talking about Independence Day or films, we're talking about a bloody good guy that isn't all that flashy but leaves his heart out on the field.
 
Dasa

Dasa

International Vice-Captain
People can have reasons other than just the 'quality' (for lack of a better word) of something to have it as their favourite...it applies to favourite cricketers or favourite movies or just about anything else.
 
weldone

weldone

Hall of Fame Member
Dasa said:
People can have reasons other than just the 'quality' (for lack of a better word) of something to have it as their favourite...it applies to favourite cricketers or favourite movies or just about anything else.
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Rather, because 'quality' is such a subjective word that people can have different favorites because of their own definitions of the word 'quality', which is rather acceptable and interesting. For example, I don't mind someone choosing Frank Worrell over Vivian Richards if he shows an interesting explanation.

But I can't say that my favorite bowler is Utpal Chatterjee because he took more wickets in Ranji trophy for Bengal than Malcolm Marshall, Bill O'Reilly and Dennis Lillee combined. Or, I can't say that my uncle is my favorite player because I've seen him live tonking me for 3 consecutive sixers in gully cricket (and Bradman didn't do that) and he carried himself off-the-field better than Bradman did. If I say that'll seem like a joke.

This is my explanation of the subject. I think I've said enough about the topic for you guys to know what I think about it. Now, both you and I are free to follow whatever logic we believe in and keep voting.
 
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weldone

weldone

Hall of Fame Member
TumTum said:
I agree with weldone. The most likely winner of this thing would be:

Marshall - Because nobody has seen him bowl
Sachin - Because of his humility
Some **** NZ player - Because they never win anything

Lame
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lol

missing the great Ajit Agarkar here :(
 
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weldone said:
But I can't say that my favorite bowler is Utpal Chatterjee because he took more wickets in Ranji trophy for Bengal than Malcolm Marshall, Bill O'Reilly and Dennis Lillee combined.
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Why not?

I'll gladly admit someone like McGrath (Glenn, not Anthony) was vastly superior to Kyle Mills, but Mills is one of my favourite cricketers and I enjoy his success much more than I ever did McGrath's. I don't see how that's an invalid reason for liking Mills more than McGrath.

BTW, I'll vote for Bond here.
 
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Jono

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Incredible that some people in this thread seem to have no idea what 'favourite' means.

adjective
1. appealing to the general public; "a favorite tourist attraction" [syn: favorite]
2. preferred above all others and treated with partiality; "the favored child" [syn: favored]

Bias is inherent in having a favourite!!!

**** if people had it their way the final should just be Bradman vs. Sobers or WG Grace, and let's be done with it.

So many examples on this forum where people's favourite cricketers are journeyman, battlers or people they like for reasons that have nothing to do with ability (Nicky Boje for me :cool: ).
 
weldone

weldone

Hall of Fame Member
Jono said:
adjective
1. appealing to the general public; "a favorite tourist attraction" [syn: favorite]
2. preferred above all others and treated with partiality; "the favored child" [syn: favored]
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Another definition, incidentally from the same source:
1. front-runner: a competitor thought likely to win

However, my favorite cricketer is myself; why not?
 
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weldone said:
Another definition, incidentally from the same source:
1. front-runner: a competitor thought likely to win
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Nah, that's entirely different.

Look at the 2002 Melbourne Cup. Media Puzzle was not the 'favourite' by that definition - Vinnie Roe was. But because jockey Damien Oliver's brother had died the previous week, Media Puzzle was the horse the crowd wanted to see win. When he did, it was a tremendously popular result.

And no one would say Media Puzzle was the best winner of the Melbourne Cup in history, but it was a tremendously popular result and one many consider among their favourites.
 
Jono

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
weldone, don't worry I'd vote for you over Border due to my national bias. :dry:

Jeez, I'd vote Ntini over Pietersen because Ntini chatted to me for a while back in 2005 when he was down in Australia and was a thoroughly nice guy. Guess I shouldn't do that because KP is the better cricketer 8-)
 
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