GotSpin
Hall of Fame Member
Think its been argued that the Windies should look to the future development of players, rather than hoping against probability
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*Official* South Africa in West Indies
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WindieWeathers
International Regular
And let me guess NZ have a better middle order right?
i'm actully a WI fan so I KNOW what these players are capable of, if Barath was availible we wouldn't even be having this debate, but as he isn't i believe we'd be better off having Darren Bravo in the middle order, SUE ME!! 
.And speaking of Barath!!, he's apparently back in training so hopefully the kid will be ready for the 2nd Test.
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Flem274*
123/5
I can't believe I'm deconstructing this drivel, but whatever.And let me guess NZ have a better middle order right?
And speaking of Barath!!, he's apparently back in training so hopefully the kid will be ready for the 2nd Test.
1) NZ have nothing to do with the WI. End.
2) I'm an NZ fan, but I can't tell you what every single player is definitely capable of. You don't know what the WI players are capable of either. Being a fan makes you a fan, not a library of Godlike knowledge.
3)Yes, you believe Darren Bravo would be best. Unfortunately, you've made that very obvious. The majority on the other hand, would prefer the guy with over 100 tests to his name, over twenty test centuries and an average of 48. Most of us would prefer WI best batsman to play.
4) Sue you? I gladly would if stupidity and talent at being obnoxious was a crime. Sadly it's not, and I have to rely on natural selection to solve the issue.
yep when barath comes back wi should be back at the top in no timeAnd let me guess NZ have a better middle order right?
And speaking of Barath!!, he's apparently back in training so hopefully the kid will be ready for the 2nd Test.
Briony
International Debutant
So can the Windies knock off SA?
The Proteas have lost Parnell and will be picking either Tsotsobe or McLaren which considerably weakens them. That might provide some hope for the Caribbean men.
SA's batting is a bit unsettled with either Prince or Peterson filling the contentious slot. You'd imagine JP would still play and they have Smith in terrible form.
The Proteas have lost Parnell and will be picking either Tsotsobe or McLaren which considerably weakens them. That might provide some hope for the Caribbean men.
SA's batting is a bit unsettled with either Prince or Peterson filling the contentious slot. You'd imagine JP would still play and they have Smith in terrible form.
GotSpin
Hall of Fame Member
Just too many injuries for WI as well. It'll be interesting to see how Shilly bowls. Could well be a telling factor. In fact, though he would indeed benefit greatly from playing in England, Lil bravo could well prove to be that extra fire power that lets them compete
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TT Boy
Hall of Fame Member
Not really sure there is much contention. Virus is an opener/number 3 who has done well domestically in that position and scored a hundred on debut whilst Prince has always contributed when batting in the middle order anywhere but in the subcontinent.
Think the batting will be too much for the Windies attack whilst the bowling looks pretty decent. Expect a big series from Morne.
popepouri
State Vice-Captain
Maybe on the batting side but I'm skeptical to say it will affect the bowling that much, in fact it may improve it. Parnell has been a question mark in the longer format while Lopsy has proven himself and he's been unlucky to not have been picked earlier. He's currently sitting a healthy FC average of 24. Parnell's in the mid 30s without a 5fer.
Woodster
International Captain
Yes agree with this, think SA have far too much batting for this particular WI attack. Such a shame WI continually fail to get their finest 10 or 11 out on the field, an attack comprising of Taylor, Edwards, Roach, Bravo would certainly throw up one or two more searching questions for Smith and co.
WindieWeathers
International Regular
Oh look my "NZ groupie" is at it again!!
1. It seems to have been lost on you that AN NZ FAN came on this thread and downplayed our middle order, so i merely asked him if HIS SIDE'S middle order was better?!! he never responded so i guess that answers the question.
2. Don't embarrass yourself by telling me what i do and don't know about WI cricket, YOU DON'T KNOW ME!!.
3. "Majority"? what two people?
if you want to be their "spokesman" you're gonna have to do a better job than that i'm afraid!! .4. I'll take "stupidity" over being an immature baby who can't handle someone else having a different opinion to their own any day of the week thanks!!
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WindieWeathers
International Regular
Exactly, but certain posters can't seem to fathom that notion!!
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WindieWeathers
International Regular
Pace might not be the key factor in the first Test though, Trinidad's pitch is spin friendly which is why the idea of playing Shilly and Benn would be the best way forward, especially when you consider that South Africa don't fancy spin at all.
And Barath, Taylor and maybe Sarwan might be back for the 2nd Test, so all is not lost yet.
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WindieWeathers
International Regular
Well lets be realistic here, if one person has watched a youngster rise up from the begining, and knows the ins and outs of his game, and another fan just sees him on TV in one or two ODI's who is likely to be more informed about said player?
i'm not saying i automatically know more than everyone else, but when people try to ridicule my ideas i'm gonna put my cards on the table.
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Woodster
International Captain
No I appreciate that spin may be a factor, was just talking generally and how much healthier the side would look with such players involved. I still expect SA's quicker bowlers to do some damage to the WI line-up, regardless of expected conditions.
Should Sarwan and Taylor both be available for the second Test it will naturally be a boost. Barath is obviously very inexperienced and consequently not as key to the side, but still an obvious talent for the future, and likely to strengthen the side further.
marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
I think it's a fair few more than 2, compared to the 1 person who has the stupid idea of opening with Chanderpaul.3. "Majority"? what two people?
popepouri
State Vice-Captain
I still think this is an urban legend. Maybe for players like Duminy or Prince but Smith, Kallis, AB and Amla played spinners really well.
Woodster
International Captain
They may struggle at times against top quality spin, but not against run of the mill twirlers, and sadly at this moment in time, is pretty much what West Indies have.