The best batsman in the world is gambhir ?

[pasag]

Sehwag>Sachin>Gambhir>Laxman=Dravid

If we were to play tomorrow, taking into account form, age and ability

 

[Sir Alex]

Sehwag>Sachin>Gambhir>Laxman=Dravid

If we were to play tomorrow, taking into account form, age and ability

Sehwag, Sachin, Laxman, Dravid, Gambir would be my order of preference.

Makes no sense as they aren't competing with each other. But shows how stupidly awesome we've a batting line up in tests.

 

[LongHopCassidy]

My God, you think this guy's trolling is the worst the internet can throw at you?

I don't think he's even trolling. It's too benign for this forum, it would have been a much better fit at Indian Cricket Fever or some such.

Real trolls would post stuff like:

'If you don't believe this ur a SA fanboi'

'Swiss Ultivite successful in erectile dysfunction cases - Is Ponting Impotent?'

'afridi is chuck norris by night'

'Lara bingle orgy video with her rebound boiz LEGIT!!!!!' - with a link to a keylogger

'Croatian organized crime is keeping Katich in the test squad'

'Hayden > Hussain'

And so on.


He's not a troll. tact, ffs

 

[Ilovecric]

The point im trying to make is no number one batsman should have a weakness to short pitched deliveries. If members don't think he has a problem with the short ball, thats okay no issue there. Just posting my opinion that it's amazing the bowlers weren't able to exploit his weakness more in test cricket.

 

[Migara]

The point im trying to make is no number one batsman should have a weakness to short pitched deliveries. If members don't think he has a problem with the short ball, thats okay no issue there. Just posting my opinion that it's amazing the bowlers weren't able to exploit his weakness more in test cricket.

So is it OK for #1 batsman to have weakness against a certain off spinner, and when the ball is turning away from him?

 

[andyc]

Like others have said, and Migara has just alluded to, there's no issue with having one or two weaknesses, and every batsman is going to have them, otherwise they'd never get out. It's learning to overcome them that makes a true quality player, which Gambhir certainly seems to have been doing, as evidenced by his number one ranking. As long as he can at least not get out to short balls through ducking and weaving, there's not really any problem. Steve Waugh famously stopped playing the short ball, and he was hardly a hack.

 

[Ilovecric]

So is it OK for #1 batsman to have weakness against a certain off spinner, and when the ball is turning away from him?

Who is that ?

Every batsman has a weakness for good bowling But to get bumped out by short balls over and over again, it's just a basic element in batting. But we all know most Indian batsman don't get the proper preparation.

 

[Cevno]

And if u see his posting record he has done nothing so far ,except come and bash the Indian team,it's players and Mohammad Asif.

Apologies to Ilovecric for this post.

I was referring to another member here And his past record.

Though have to say that your tone was a bit denigerating and provocative. In making statements like Gambhir is hiding in the sub continent etc...

 

[Migara]

Who is that ?

Every batsman has a weakness for good bowling But to get bumped out by short balls over and over again, it's just a basic element in batting. But we all know most Indian batsman don't get the proper preparation.

So was Gambhir failing against short stuff bowled at 135k? If he was failing against 145k bouncers sent on bouncy wickets, and considered bad, then Ponting failing on Indian wickets against Harbhajan and left arm spinners should be given a equal weight.

For me the thread starter is cherry picking instances or conditions to degrade a batsman. I can do the same and show every batsman was ****house

 

[Ikki]

So was Gambhir failing against short stuff bowled at 135k? If he was failing against 145k bouncers sent on bouncy wickets, and considered bad, then Ponting failing on Indian wickets against Harbhajan and left arm spinners should be given a equal weight.

For me the thread starter is cherry picking instances or conditions to degrade a batsman. I can do the same and show every batsman was ****house

While I don't agree with the thread starter, you're wrong in your example anyway. Ponting has faced better bowlers in spin-conducive conditions and succeeded. The point the OP was making is that Gambhir is yet to play 1 comparable innings.

 

[GotSpin]

So was Gambhir failing against short stuff bowled at 135k? If he was failing against 145k bouncers sent on bouncy wickets, and considered bad, then Ponting failing on Indian wickets against Harbhajan and left arm spinners should be given a equal weight.

For me the thread starter is cherry picking instances or conditions to degrade a batsman. I can do the same and show every batsman was ****house

Don't agree that being unable to play the short ball means you can't be one of the best.


But not sure if playing bad against Harbhajan = Not yet having succeeded conclusively outside the SC on bouncy wickets.

 

[Sir Alex]

While I don't agree with the thread starter, you're wrong in your example anyway. Ponting has faced better bowlers in spin-conducive conditions and succeeded. The point the OP was making is that Gambhir is yet to play 1 comparable innings.

LMAO... Do you have an inbuilt radar for every Ponting reference??

I agree with Migara and disagree with you anyway. But let's do it in some Ponting thread. Please leave this alone ffs.

 

[GotSpin]

It's not a very good comparison tbf

 

[Sir Alex]

It's not a very good comparison tbf

Ok Gambhir had a good ODI series down under in 2008.

 

[Migara]

It's not a very good comparison tbf

May not be perfect, but still a comparison.

 

[GotSpin]

Ok Gambhir had a good ODI series down under in 2008.

I don't agree with the OP so I just said comparing Ponting, who has really only failed to one spinner, to a batsmen, who arguably has yet to succeed on 'bouncy' tracks, is not a great one. Doesn't really phase me though

 

[Furball]

May not be perfect, but still a comparison.

A not very good one.

Gambhir's been an excellent batsman in Tests for the past 2 years, but the bottom line is that he's played almost all his Test cricket inside the subcontinent and hasn't played any Test cricket in England, South Africa or Australia.

He can go one of two ways - succeed in those conditions and force people to recognise him as one of the best of his era, or fail, and still be regarded as a good batsman who inflated his average somewhat by scoring piles of runs on the subcontinent.

Hopefully it'll be the first.

 

[Ikki]

LMAO... Do you have an inbuilt radar for every Ponting reference??

I agree with Migara and disagree with you anyway. But let's do it in some Ponting thread. Please leave this alone ffs.

I have an inbuilt radar for nonsense actually.

Anyway, I was simply pointing out that your example seems pretty irrelevant even if your argument makes sense. It has nothing to do with defending Ponting.

 

[Ilovecric]

So was Gambhir failing against short stuff bowled at 135k? If he was failing against 145k bouncers sent on bouncy wickets, and considered bad, then Ponting failing on Indian wickets against Harbhajan and left arm spinners should be given a equal weight.

For me the thread starter is cherry picking instances or conditions to degrade a batsman. I can do the same and show every batsman was ****house

So ponting fails against spin all the times ?

Imagine if Gambhir was playing during tthe 70s/80s/90s Which team would he score runs against ?


I love to see him in action but I can't help but wonder how the hell he is able to survive. Thread is probably saying less about gambhir than it's saying the present bowlers or pitches.

 

[Migara]

So ponting fails against spin all the times ?

Imagine if Gambhir was playing during tthe 70s/80s/90s Which team would he score runs against ?


I love to see him in action but I can't help but wonder how the hell he is able to survive. Thread is probably saying less about gambhir than it's saying the present bowlers or pitches.

So Gambhir fails against short ball every time? Imagine if Pontin was playing in the era of dust bowls of India and Pakistan with 3 - 4 spinners bowling against them, who were as good as Harbhajan.

The fact is every batsmen is getting it easy due to flat pitches, be it short bowling or spin bowling.