Furball
Evil Scotsman
True, in hindsight I probably wouldn't have made that post, Ambrose just stands out more from what little cricket I watched in the 1990s.
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Joel Garner vs. Dennis Lillee (Tests only)
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Teja.
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I can't choose between Ambrose and Akram, terrific bowlers as they both are. However, The statistical difference between them becomes even little when both Bowlers are analyzed in the time frame of Ambrose's career. The two-three extra years he played where he did not look like Akram at all hurt his statistics. It is impossible for me to pick two bowlers from the 90s though. With the 90s and 00s put together, I'd pick Waqar, Mcgrath, Donald, Akram and Ambrose. Find it impossibly hard to separate Ambrose, Donald and Akram.
Furball
Evil Scotsman
Ambrose consistently being a gun against England and Australia probably has a lot to do with it.
Ikki
Hall of Fame Member
IMO, in the top echelon the 1-2 run/ball differences become negligible and other things start to matter. Wasim, for me, was that bit more likely to run through and decimate a line-up. IIRC he has two hat-tricks, took 3 wickets in an over once, and 4 wickets in 5 balls too - just to illustrate what I am talking about. He was awkward and did the extremely hard things (swing, bowl fast with a short run-up/fast arm) regularly. The highest compliment I can give him is that he was very much like Warne in that he seemed to get breakthroughs when they were necessary and every ball felt like a wicket could fall from it. In the 90s he was imperious, especially at home.
Here is a list of pace bowlers in the 90s with 100+ wickets, listed in order of best average.
http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine...0;spanval1=span;template=results;type=bowling
Here is a list of pace bowlers in the 90s with 100+ wickets, listed in order of best average.
http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine...0;spanval1=span;template=results;type=bowling
Cevno
Hall of Fame Member
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I find it very tough to seperate Ambrose,Mcgrath,Akram,Donald and Waqar. All in the same bracket for me. Nothing if much seperates them.
Specially among Akram,Mcgrath and Ambrose.
Steyn is pretty much on the verge of joining that Elite group.
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Sir Alex
Banned
Completely agree. Not having minnows to bowl at, being a one man attack, etc etc and still returned great figures. Add to that captaincy, ability to give it more than a thwack, and a howitzer from the deep made him such a useful and for Zimbabwe, a priceless cricketer.
The Sean
Cricketer Of The Year
McGrath's efforts in that past decade were nothing short of monumental. Considering how we go on about the virtually decade long run-fest that was the 2000s, when you look at the figures returned by McGrath, Warne and Murali over that period you can even further appreciate just how phenomenally great they were.
Cevno
Hall of Fame Member
Akthar's record in 2000's is truly phenomenal considering he played his homes matches on Pakistani wickets which for a period of 2002-2007 were very flat indeed.
Look at the strike rate .Phenomenal. 39.6
That is even better than anyone in the 1990's.
He with Steyn trump the rest in terms of strike rate.And Steyn plays his home games in south africa.
Look at the strike rate .Phenomenal. 39.6
That is even better than anyone in the 1990's.
He with Steyn trump the rest in terms of strike rate.And Steyn plays his home games in south africa.
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BhupinderSingh
Banned
Someone grew up playing on Pakistani wickets doesn't mean they'll help him.If that was the case,India & Sri Lanka would've also produced alltime great bowlers but they haven't produced even one till now whereas Pakistan has produced atleast 5 of them who can be considered as good as any bowler in history.So,what you are saying is not true.You should appreciate Pakistani bowlers for being successful ingrave yards of fast bowlers rather than taking cheap shots at them.
Furball
Evil Scotsman
Yes, congratulations to the Pakistani quicks for bowling well at home.Someone grew up playing on Pakistani wickets doesn't mean they'll help him.If that was the case,India & Sri Lanka would've also produced alltime great bowlers but they haven't produced even one till now whereas Pakistan has produced atleast 5 of them who can be considered as good as any bowler in history.So,what you are saying is not true.You should appreciate Pakistani bowlers for being successful ingrave yards of fast bowlers rather than taking cheap shots at them.