**Official** NRL 2010 thread

[Craig]

Coote has 12 tries in 24 games, not a bad strike rate at all.

 

[social]

Not it isn't a fallacy at all. I watch the **** every week in the forlorn hope some toss pot North Shore dick head won't do a load over the shape of a scrum. Once every 5 or so weeks they don't.

Of course they'll be tempted, but no **** in Australia will be watching. There are 4 codes here, and Rah Rah is the least followed because its by far the least entertaining to watch. It's like pulling teeth, only more painful.

Even the A League is better than 80 per cent of rugby matches, and its horrible.

No doubt we'll get the usual toss-pottery, you know "ooh, leaugies don't understand our game.. Tee hee". No, its that your game is ****ed, frankly, at least the way it's administered and played here.

Mostly that's because it's followed by soft **** Tories like, well you, frankly mate. Most of themare born with silver spoons up their arses, and have them wiped for them as they go through the GPS system. Dire.

Way different in NZ I grant you, and SA as well, in terms of the non-****wit demographic who play it. Which is why it's a miracle we ever beat them - most of our sppon fed GPS boys are worried they'll ruin their manicure.

If rugby league is such a good game, why hasnt it expanded in 100 years?

Pretty simple - the average game is **** (revolutionary tactic; spend 5 tackles running at a brick wall then kick it and repeat this ad infinitum until someone makes a mistake), there are too many teams already which has diluted quality and the majority of the management of the sport is undertaken by morons

By the way, your rugby union stereotype is not only incorrect as far as the rest of the world is concerned but I think you'll find that it's an opinion that lost relevance in this country in the 80s

And this comes from someone that chucked quite a bit of cash Souths way to help save them (when I didnt really have it to spend btw) and spend virtually every second weekend sitting in that tree at North Sydney Oval watching the bears snatch another defeat out of the jaws of victory

 

[Ausage]

If rugby league is such a good game, why hasnt it expanded in 100 years?

Pretty simple - the average game is **** (revolutionary tactic; spend 5 tackles running at a brick wall then kick it and repeat this ad infinitum until someone makes a mistake), there are too many teams already which has diluted quality and the majority of the management of the sport is undertaken by morons

By the way, your rugby union stereotype is not only incorrect as far as the rest of the world is concerned but I think you'll find that it's an opinion that lost relevance in this country in the 80s

And this comes from someone that chucked quite a bit of cash Souths way to help save them (when I didnt really have it to spend btw) and spend virtually every second weekend sitting in that tree at North Sydney Oval watching the bears snatch another defeat out of the jaws of victory

Somethings not adding up there.

 

[social]

Somethings not adding up there.

IMO, league became far less enjoyable the moment they introduced the almost unlimited interchange laws

Previously, players would get tired which opened up gaps in the defensive line that creative players could exploit.

With the introduction of the interchange, fresh(ish) players can always be brought on as reinforcements and many games are simply an arm wrestle as the defensive line remains intact throughout

 

[Burgey]

If rugby league is such a good game, why hasnt it expanded in 100 years?

Pretty simple - the average game is **** (revolutionary tactic; spend 5 tackles running at a brick wall then kick it and repeat this ad infinitum until someone makes a mistake), there are too many teams already which has diluted quality and the majority of the management of the sport is undertaken by morons

By the way, your rugby union stereotype is not only incorrect as far as the rest of the world is concerned but I think you'll find that it's an opinion that lost relevance in this country in the 80s

And this comes from someone that chucked quite a bit of cash Souths way to help save them (when I didnt really have it to spend btw) and spend virtually every second weekend sitting in that tree at North Sydney Oval watching the bears snatch another defeat out of the jaws of victory

Rugby ios the least relevant football code in this country by a street.

Tin pot, half-arsed comps doesn't equal meaningful expansion, ffs. Can't wait for the Romania-NZ classic.

AFL hasn't expanded, and quite frankly cricket hasn't in any meaningful sense either.

Yet I'm sure you post in Cricket Chat. Is it a **** sport?

The rugby WC winner will come from the British Isles, SA, France, aus or NZ. The league WC winnet will com from Aus, NZ or the British Isles.

Not seeing how expansion determines Rugby.is the better sport. Plenty of socio-economic reasons at play there too.

 

[Smudge]

Tin pot, half-arsed comps doesn't equal meaningful expansion, ffs. Can't wait for the Romania-NZ classic.

How's the Lebanon national league team coming along this year? Any of the players from outside of West Sydney?

 

[Ausage]

IMO, league became far less enjoyable the moment they introduced the almost unlimited interchange laws

Previously, players would get tired which opened up gaps in the defensive line that creative players could exploit.

With the introduction of the interchange, fresh(ish) players can always be brought on as reinforcements and many games are simply an arm wrestle as the defensive line remains intact throughout

Unlimited interchange hasn't been around for nearly 10 years, and recently the number has gone down from 12 to 10 with talk around of reducing the number down further to 8. The 2nd ref charged with controlling the ruck has sped up the play the ball meaning lumbering forwards have to get back quicker tiring them further. Small quick hookers are fantastic at exploiting these gaps in the ruck.

Not sure what you're getting at in your last paragraph, but plenty of teams have a small creative specialist as an interchange player who is brought on to run riot over tiring defenses. Ben Barba for the Dogs and Jarrod Sammut for the Panthers (last year) are examples of these kinds of players.

Reckon you need to watch some more footy tbh. Your complaint about creative players just does not stack up to todays game.

 

[Ausage]

How's the Lebanon national league team coming along this year? Any of the players from outside of West Sydney?

Don't recall Burgey using RLs international competition as proof of it's superiority.

 

[Smudge]

Obviously RL administration thinks expansion matters...

 

[Ausage]

Obviously RL administration thinks expansion matters...

International expansion? Hardly see that being obvious. National expansion fair enough.

 

[Craig]

If anybody tells me that the 1st half between St George and the Roosters has been boring, then I'd tell you that you are an idiot.

I myself grew up watching and loving rugby, but ever since l've lived in Australia, I can barely watch a game. I've watched plenty of games where both teams kick half a dozen penalty goals each in the whole match, was tough too watch sometimes.

 

[social]

Unlimited interchange hasn't been around for nearly 10 years, and recently the number has gone down from 12 to 10 with talk around of reducing the number down further to 8. The 2nd ref charged with controlling the ruck has sped up the play the ball meaning lumbering forwards have to get back quicker tiring them further. Small quick hookers are fantastic at exploiting these gaps in the ruck.

Not sure what you're getting at in your last paragraph, but plenty of teams have a small creative specialist as an interchange player who is brought on to run riot over tiring defenses. Ben Barba for the Dogs and Jarrod Sammut for the Panthers (last year) are examples of these kinds of players.

Reckon you need to watch some more footy tbh. Your complaint about creative players just does not stack up to todays game.

Probably have the opportunity to watch more of it than the average fan because of the time difference here and the fact that we get every game live

I'm simply not that impressed by the standard of most of the teams

 

[Burgey]

Don't recall Burgey using RLs international competition as proof of it's superiority.

Course not, especially not on a cricket forum. A game that's been played in England, Australia, NZ, SA, WI and the subcontinent for 125 years and has expanded from that base to precisely nowhere in any significant sense, yet it's my favourite sport.

Volty, it isn't the game of rugby that ****s me that much, it's the attitude of the game's adminintrators and the 44 people who follow it here. Their sense of superiority over other codes in Australia is delusional. By any measure its the 4th code here.

I made a point of differentiating NZ and SA from our rugby, because the rugby culture in those places seems to be completely different to the wanker set here.

 

[Craig]

Todd Carney always looks like he is about to take a hard**** when he is about to take a conversion attempt.

 

[slippyslip]

Not it isn't a fallacy at all. I watch the **** every week in the forlorn hope some toss pot North Shore dick head won't do a load over the shape of a scrum. Once every 5 or so weeks they don't.

Of course they'll be tempted, but no **** in Australia will be watching. There are 4 codes here, and Rah Rah is the least followed because its by far the least entertaining to watch. It's like pulling teeth, only more painful.

Even the A League is better than 80 per cent of rugby matches, and its horrible.

No doubt we'll get the usual toss-pottery, you know "ooh, leaugies don't understand our game.. Tee hee". No, its that your game is ****ed, frankly, at least the way it's administered and played here.

Mostly that's because it's followed by soft **** Tories like, well you, frankly mate. Most of themare born with silver spoons up their arses, and have them wiped for them as they go through the GPS system. Dire.

Way different in NZ I grant you, and SA as well, in terms of the non-****wit demographic who play it. Which is why it's a miracle we ever beat them - most of our sppon fed GPS boys are worried they'll ruin their manicure.

Oh, wait. Can I stereotype you as some dumb bogan from the Western Suburbs, or worse, a backward Queenslander (wait, isn't calling a Queenslander backward superfluous?)

Maybe I should make a comment about you drinking VB and thinking its a quality beer. Then you can call me a "bloody chardonnay" drinker.

 

[Burgey]

IMO, league became far less enjoyable the moment they introduced the almost unlimited interchange laws

Previously, players would get tired which opened up gaps in the defensive line that creative players could exploit.

With the introduction of the interchange, fresh(ish) players can always be brought on as reinforcements and many games are simply an arm wrestle as the defensive line remains intact throughout

Yeah agree with this for certain. A lot of the attritional aspects of the game were taken away by having interchange instead of replacements.

Has been reduced in recent times but would much prefer the old 4 replacement rule.

 

[slippyslip]

Todd Carney always looks like he is about to take a hard**** when he is about to take a conversion attempt.

Julian O'Neill style into a pair of shoes?

 

[social]

Course not, especially not on a cricket forum. A game that's been played in England, Australia, NZ, SA, WI and the subcontinent for 125 years and has expanded from that base to precisely nowhere in any significant sense, yet it's my favourite sport.

Volty, it isn't the game of rugby that ****s me that much, it's the attitude of the game's adminintrators and the 44 people who follow it here. Their sense of superiority over other codes in Australia is delusional. By any measure its the 4th code here.

I made a point of differentiating NZ and SA from our rugby, because the rugby culture in those places seems to be completely different to the wanker set here.

Tbh, it appears more likely that you're stuck in a time-warp from the 80s as on the rare occasions that i get to a game in Oz, the attitudes (from the majority) and experiences are pretty much the same whether it be rugby, league or AFL

 

[Burgey]

Oh, wait. Can I stereotype you as some dumb bogan from the Western Suburbs, or worse, a backward Queenslander (wait, isn't calling a Queenslander backward superfluous?)

Maybe I should make a comment about you drinking VB and thinking its a quality beer. Then you can call me a "bloody chardonnay" drinker.

Feel free, rugby idiots do it all the time. Their disdain for those from poorer backgrounds is why their own talent pool in this country is so small.

Yes, calling a Queenslander backward is superfluous. That's axiomatic. I'm proudly from the western suburbs, as is my whole family, including my uncle Chris Hickey, who coaches the Waratahs. But do keep trying.

As for whether I'm a "bogan", that's up to others to decide I suppose. The term back when I was growing up was "westie", dunno why bogan took over, think we imported it from Victoria.

I don't drink VB, and the only chardonnay I have is unwooded, as I think the oak flavour in the rest is over done, and it's a bit passe in any event. More a Sauv. Blanc bloke these days - Marlborough's are always good (their Pinot Noirs are better imo, but that's a personal thing) - you should try some from Margaret River too.

Again, it's a matter of taste I suppose. When you develop some, give us a call back.

Heck, I even walk upright and have been practising using my knife and fork, you can tell by the pock marks around my mouth.

 

[Smudge]

Volty, it isn't the game of rugby that ****s me that much, it's the attitude of the game's adminintrators and the 44 people who follow it here.

Were those 44 people evenly spread between the 31,000 at the Reds v Stormers game on Saturday night and the 40,000 at the Tahs v Brumbies game last night?


By the way, I'm far from a league-hater (not suggesting you said I am) - in my opinion, an outstanding game of union is better than an outstanding game of league (in terms of continuity) but a bad game of union is much worse than a bad game of league, if that makes any sense.