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Redbacks

International Captain
another point is Bradman was a genius of course but he never faced a bowling attack like we could produce, we're talking about the best pace unit EVER, so he'd be facing something he's never seen before.
Could argue that the Windies pace attack of that era never bowled against the best batsman EVER, so they might have had their colours lowered slightly, something they never bowled to before.

I'm in your camp though, the WI all time XI is slighly stronger that Australia IMO.
 

satyam

School Boy/Girl Captain
You may argue that Bradman is the best "batsman" but as i said many great cricket writers and observers believe Sobers is the best cricketer of all time which means he brings more to the table than Bradman, yes Australia have a better spin attack but there's aboslutey no contest whatsoever in the pace attack, in the batting we've got Viv and Lara to go with Sobers so as i said man for man i think WI are stronger.
Agreed . Malcolm marshall will destroy batting line up of Australia in one spell. And Australia won't be able to do that because Haynes ,Richards and Greenidge were excellent player of pace bowling.
 

WindieWeathers

International Regular
Indeed. Without Bradman I think the Windies would have a decent edge
But like i said Bradman never faced the best pace attack in history so how can you be so sure he'd make the difference? plus Lara, Viv and Sobers are a better trio than Bradman, Ponting and Hayden IMO.
 

G.I.Joe

International Coach
Australia have Gilchrist and Miller at 7 and 8. WI have Dujon and Marshall.

Australia have Warne and O'Reilly. WI have Gibbs (?) and Sobers.
 

GotSpin

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
But like i said Bradman never faced the best pace attack in history so how can you be so sure he'd make the difference? plus Lara, Viv and Sobers are a better trio than Bradman, Ponting and Hayden IMO.
This argument, like Redbacks mentioned, works both ways though. That pace attack never faced the best batsmen of all time.

How can I be sure that he'd make a difference? A career that spanned 20 years of utter domination that will probably never be surpassed, at least not in our lifetimes for sure.
 

satyam

School Boy/Girl Captain
But like i said Bradman never faced the best pace attack in history so how can you be so sure he'd make the difference? plus Lara, Viv and Sobers are a better trio than Bradman, Ponting and Hayden IMO.
Ponting and hayden are the most over rated batsman in the history of cricket.The fact that Malcolm marshall dismissed Gavaskar many times on the flat tracks of India, Ponting and hayden would have been his bunny.
 

WindieWeathers

International Regular
It doesn't really matter what Bradman brings to the table other than the significant batting skills he had which considerably outshine any other batsmen. Even though Sobers is the greatest allrounder, he is not the greatest cricketer when you consider the massive gap between bradman and everyone else.
There's a reason why Sobers is considered the greatest though, because he could win a match on his own with both bat AND ball, so if Sobers didn't make many runs he could make up with it with the ball, that's not an option for Bradman which is why imo Sobers is the better cricketer.
 

Zinzan

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There's no rule book that states how many ">" can be used though!! :laugh: , it doesn't matter, i mean "better than" and i stick by that notion.
Lol @ you thinking there's no difference between '>' & '>>>>>>' even without a rule book
 

Howsie

Cricketer Of The Year
LOL at this thread. Wouldn't even waste my time trying to refute some of the **** thats being said.
 

G.I.Joe

International Coach
There's a reason why Sobers is considered the greatest though, because he could win a match on his own with both bat AND ball, so if Sobers didn't make many runs he could make up with it with the ball, that's not an option for Bradman which is why imo Sobers is the better cricketer.
Its not as straight cut as that. Its a question of what you prefer, the extra 3 wickets or extra 84 runs.
 

WindieWeathers

International Regular
This argument, like Redbacks mentioned, works both ways though. That pace attack never faced the best batsmen of all time.

How can I be sure that he'd make a difference? A career that spanned 20 years of utter domination that will probably never be surpassed, at least not in our lifetimes for sure.
It could be argued that cricket was a little easier back then!!, but that's another argument i guess!! :laugh: , yeah our pace attack never faced him, but he'd have four or five of the best pacers ever coming at him, i'm sure one of them would have made the breakthrough sooner, rather than later.
 

GotSpin

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
There's a reason why Sobers is considered the greatest though, because he could win a match on his own with both bat AND ball, so if Sobers didn't make many runs he could make up with it with the ball, that's not an option for Bradman which is why imo Sobers is the better cricketer.
Granted, Bradman wasn't the greatest bowler, though he still averaged 36. Nevertheless, when considering their worth to a team, Bradman's supremacy as the greatest batsmen in the game outweighs the achievements of another player who does remarkably well in both fields of batting and bowling, but not selectively standing out further than his peers like Bradman did.
 

Zinzan

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LOL at this thread. Wouldn't even waste my time trying to refute some of the **** thats being said.
Yet you did waste some time passing comment on it regardless, always cracks me up when people do that ..hehe
 

GotSpin

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
It could be argued that cricket was a little easier back then!!, but that's another argument i guess!! :laugh: , yeah our pace attack never faced him, but he'd have four or five of the best pacers ever coming at him, i'm sure one of them would have made the breakthrough sooner, rather than later.
There's no way we're going down that road because we'll be here until the cows come home!
 

WindieWeathers

International Regular
Granted, Bradman wasn't the greatest bowler, though he still averaged 36. Nevertheless, when considering their worth to a team, Bradman's supremacy as the greatest batsmen in the game outweighs the achievements of another player who does remarkably well in both fields of batting and bowling, but not selectively standing out further than his peers like Bradman did.
I just see a big difference between a great batsman and a great alrounder, Sobers wasn't just "decent" with bat and ball, he was bliming GREAT with bat and ball, plus a cracking fielder, i guess we'll have to disagree on this subject because i'll always say Sobers is the greatest and you'll most likely stick with your opinion too.
 

GotSpin

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I just see a big difference between a great batsman and a great alrounder, Sobers wasn't just "decent" with bat and ball, he was bliming GREAT with bat and ball, plus a cracking fielder, i guess we'll have to disagree on this subject because i'll always say Sobers is the greatest and you'll most likely stick with your opinion too.
It's really a matter of opinion.

Do you want someone who excels greatly to be one of the best in two fields or someone, in one field, who surpasses everyone to a level which will never be arguably never surpassed or equaled but not great in the 2nd field.
 

Redbacks

International Captain
Great with the ball.....? Averaged 40 against Australia, can't see him as more than a filler with the other quicks in the side. Keith Miller on the other hand
 
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