Worlds greatest team

[Zinzan]

^ Incidentally, I did consider having Chanderpaul as my twelfth-man for the Windies, but Walsh edged in front of him

 

[WindieWeathers]

It's not unreasonable in the slightest for you to be of the view that the Windies would take it out, but your '>>>>>' in your previous post suggested to me you felt it was a total 'slam-dunk' when it is in fact a very close thing regardless of which side of the fence you sit on.

It may not be a "slam dunk" but if people are being honest with themselves they would lean towards WI, that's all i was saying, i mean in reality a large percentage of our team could claim to be the best ever in their position i.e "Sobers best alrounder".."Marshall best pacer" etc, and there's an argument for Lara with the bat, i see your point that it wouldn't be a walk in the park but WI's team is still stronger imo.

 

[DingDong]

australian all time team will crap all over the WI all time team tbh

 

[WindieWeathers]

australian all time team will crap all over the WI all time team tbh

Yeah of course they would!! .. nice to see another post full of facts and figures!!

 

[Athlai]

Yeah of course they would!! .. nice to see another post full of facts and figures!!

There are no facts when considering a hypothetical match up.

I'd lean towards Australia but only because of Bradman personally. If he wasn't in the team I think I'd go for West Indies fairly easily.

 

[WindieWeathers]

There are no facts when considering a hypothetical match up.

I'd lean towards Australia but only because of Bradman personally. If he wasn't in the team I think I'd go for West Indies fairly easily.

That's where we disagree Athlai, it can't just be about one man, i believe our bowling line-up has more weapons and power, our batting line-up has at least three geniuses in Richards, Lara and Sobers, Bradman of course is a legend but many people believe Sobers is the best cricketer of all time so why couldn't he make the difference for WI just like you think Bradman would for Australia? people will come to their own conclusions but man for man i think WI have it in the bag to be honest.

 

[G.I.Joe]

I'd give it to Australia 3-2 if played in the WI or Australia of their times.

4-1 or thereabouts if played all over the world nowadays.

Would suggest 5-0 if played on turning pitches.

 

[Zinzan]

It may not be a "slam dunk" but if people are being honest with themselves they would lean towards WI

It's one thing for you to hold a certain view yourself, but that's a weird thing to say about other people. Are you suggesting Bagapath, G.I.Joe, Athlai & myself aren't being honest in thinking that Australia look marginally the stronger side of the two?

 

[GotSpin]

Wouldn't the type of pitch have a massive influence.
A fast track would reduce the impact of Australia's spin stocks which are considerably better than WI.

It'd be extremely close but I think Bradman would have to be the biggest factor in swinging it slightly towards Australia.

 

[WindieWeathers]

It's one thing for you to hold a certain view yourself, but that's a weird thing to say about other people. Are you suggesting Bagapath, G.I.Joe, Athlai & myself aren't being honest in thinking that Australia look marginally the stronger side of the two?

I didn't name names did i? but when i see comments like this..

australian all time team will crap all over the WI all time team tbh

Then yes it makes me wonder!!, most of the people here probably never saw Bradman play live but think he'd somehow make a bigger difference than Sobers!!!, i don't understand that but it's their opinion i guess, like i said i believe man for man WI are better, if people want to compare the individual players then be my guest.

 

[Zinzan]

I didn't name names did i? but when i see comments like this..

Ironically...the Ding Dong' post you refer to is just at the opposite end of the scale to yours where you said ....."Absolutely SPOT ON!! , our best ever side >>>>>> everyone else's that just cannot be denied," isn't it?

 

[WindieWeathers]

Ironically...Ding Dong's post is just at the opposite end of the scale to yours where you said ....."Absolutely SPOT ON!! , our best ever side >>>>>> everyone else's that just cannot be denied," isn't it?

Do you know what ">>>>" actually means? to me it just means "better than", and i think i had every right to make that claim, another point is Bradman was a genius of course but he never faced a bowling attack like we could produce, we're talking about the best pace unit EVER, so he'd be facing something he's never seen before.

 

[Athlai]

That's where we disagree Athlai, it can't just be about one man, i believe our bowling line-up has more weapons and power, our batting line-up has at least three geniuses in Richards, Lara and Sobers, Bradman of course is a legend but many people believe Sobers is the best cricketer of all time so why couldn't he make the difference for WI just like you think Bradman would for Australia? people will come to their own conclusions but man for man i think WI have it in the bag to be honest.

Well it isn't about just one player but Bradman is the best player in both teams and thats the difference. Sobers bowling wouldn't be all that effective against that Australian batting lineup though I'd say he is the second best bat from both teams. The attacks are also pretty even, with Australia dominating the spin and while with an inferior pace attack hardly disgraces themselves. They also have a few batsman that can compete with the likes of Richards and co (even if slightly worse) but can anyone compete with Bradman? No IMO.

 

[Zinzan]

Do you know what ">>>>" actually means? to me it just means "better than",.

Actually, I stand to be corrected, but pretty sure you'll find that '>' means 'better than' & '>>>>>>' means crap-loads better than (& you did use six of them when you said it& not 4 use you've used above )

 

[Athlai]

Haha yeah if Kiwi's are saying Australia may edge out the West Indies we don't say it lightly. Not a big fan of Australia are us Kiwis.

 

[Zinzan]

Haha yeah if Kiwi's are saying Australia may edge out the West Indies we don't say it lightly.

Ain't that the truth, pains me to say it

 

[WindieWeathers]

Well it isn't about just one player but Bradman is the best player in both teams and thats the difference. Sobers bowling wouldn't be all that effective against that Australian batting lineup though I'd say he is the second best bat from both teams. The attacks are also pretty even, with Australia dominating the spin and while with an inferior pace attack hardly disgraces themselves. They also have a few batsman that can compete with the likes of Richards and co (even if slightly worse) but can anyone compete with Bradman? No IMO.

You may argue that Bradman is the best "batsman" but as i said many great cricket writers and observers believe Sobers is the best cricketer of all time which means he brings more to the table than Bradman, yes Australia have a better spin attack but there's aboslutey no contest whatsoever in the pace attack, in the batting we've got Viv and Lara to go with Sobers so as i said man for man i think WI are stronger.

 

[GotSpin]

Well it isn't about just one player but Bradman is the best player in both teams and thats the difference. Sobers bowling wouldn't be all that effective against that Australian batting lineup though I'd say he is the second best bat from both teams. The attacks are also pretty even, with Australia dominating the spin and while with an inferior pace attack hardly disgraces themselves. They also have a few batsman that can compete with the likes of Richards and co (even if slightly worse) but can anyone compete with Bradman? No IMO.

Indeed. Without Bradman I think the Windies would have a decent edge

 

[WindieWeathers]

Actually, I stand to be corrected, but pretty sure you'll find that '>' means 'better than' & '>>>>>>' means crap-loads better than (& you did use six of them when you said it& not 4 use you've used above )

There's no rule book that states how many ">" can be used though!! , it doesn't matter, i mean "better than" and i stick by that notion.

 

[GotSpin]

You may argue that Bradman is the best "batsman" but as i said many great cricket writers and observers believe Sobers is the best cricketer of all time which means he brings more to the table than Bradman, yes Australia have a better spin attack but there's aboslutey no contest whatsoever in the pace attack, in the batting we've got Viv and Lara to go with Sobers so as i said man for man i think WI are stronger.

It doesn't really matter what Bradman brings to the table other than the significant batting skills he had which considerably outshine any other batsmen. Even though Sobers is the greatest allrounder, he is not the greatest cricketer when you consider the massive gap between bradman and everyone else.