Yep agree also, I think the current set up of the side is the way to go for the forsseable future, is just a matter of who to select.
Bresnan should not be in the side for me and obviously Carberry is going to make way for Strauss anyway.
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*Official* England in Bangladesh
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Bresnan should not be in the side for me and obviously Carberry is going to make way for Strauss anyway.
Scaly piscine
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Not if you play for the best FC county team by a country mile. Then you're just there to get screwed over at every opportunity.
Mark Davies, Plunkett, Onions, Mustard and Collingwood have all been treated badly by the England setup, even Blackwell as well.
Pup Clarke
Cricketer Of The Year
Yeah don't see how Colly has been poorly treated. He was selected originally for the ODI side from somewhat obscurity by Fletcher and persevered with even though he was mediocre at ODI level for the first 18 months or so (averaged 26.34 after 30 matches). Then got a call up to the test side when his first-class record wasn't that great and been generally a mainstay ever since, apart from one dropping after an extended poor trot of form after which he was recalled earlier than many people think he should have been (though he has since fully justified the recall).
TT Boy
Hall of Fame Member
If anything the selectors were kind to Davies by even having him in their thoughts. Stick a season or hell, two games together and then we talk. Ridiculous to select a bowler who can’t even manage half a season.
As for Blackwell, he offers nothing to the side. If this was the 1990s then he would be first name on the sheet with **** like Irani. Had a fair go and blew it.
As for Blackwell, he offers nothing to the side. If this was the 1990s then he would be first name on the sheet with **** like Irani. Had a fair go and blew it.
grecian
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Your probably right on Davies, but I just think compared to some that have been picked in squads (shahzad, pattinson, khan, mahmood, plunkett, bresnan, some of whom have their own iffy injury records) that he wouldn't be the worse choice.
Blackwell should be the back-up spinner in the 50-over game, IMHO. Mind you that role isn't really a terribly important one in my mind, so I shalln't argue too strenuously
zaremba
Cricketer Of The Year
Oh please give the "pity poor Durham" line a rest, Scaly. Anyhow in relation to your parade of woe:
Davies yes - it's hard to say he's been really cheated because injuries have as we all know kept him back, but I think he's deserved a chance before now
Plunkett no - he was given a very generous chance at a very young age and proved himself quite far short of Test class. He is now on the verge of a comeback on the back of some good FC performances. All of which is as it should be
Onions no - he was given a chance at Test cricket on the back of a truly wretched FC record, has performed quite well and remains in the team (or close to it) when fit
Mustard - hahahahahahahahahaha
Collingwood - huh? - well over 200 appearances for his country, I can't remember him being dropped for years and I'm really not sure how you have concluded that he's been hard done-by
Blackwell - no - was given a chance and did nothing with it. I'm not a subscriber to the school of thought that he's completely useless - he is a very dangerous batsman and can bowl a bit - but I don't think he's far above, say, Samit Patel either in achievement or svelte athleticism
Goughy
Hall of Fame Member
When DIley was selected for England the comments at the time were that he had never completed a day in the field let alone a season
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
Woodster
International Captain
Yes respomding to a few earlier comments, think Collingwood has repaid the faith that England selectors have shown in him. Think there has been times when Colly could have been thrown into the wilderness but they stick with him, and to his credit he's stuck to his side of the bargain and produced the kind of performances that were hoped of him. Badly treated - don't reckon so.
Another dominant day for England, the Test going exactly to plan at the moment. I think we can be critical of Bangladesh, and rightly so, but we also must respect England's professionalism so far in the Test. Another strong day tomorrow should have the Test close to being won.
Bell and Colly batted beautifully today, their positive running between the wickets was vital when the boundaries didn't flow. On the bowling front, inevitably it was the more experienced two that were the most impressive, in Broad and Swann. Although don't think either excelled.
Another dominant day for England, the Test going exactly to plan at the moment. I think we can be critical of Bangladesh, and rightly so, but we also must respect England's professionalism so far in the Test. Another strong day tomorrow should have the Test close to being won.
Bell and Colly batted beautifully today, their positive running between the wickets was vital when the boundaries didn't flow. On the bowling front, inevitably it was the more experienced two that were the most impressive, in Broad and Swann. Although don't think either excelled.
S Chanderpaul
U19 Vice-Captain
What a ball that was from Bresnan!
Didn't think he had it in him to be honesnt.
Didn't think he had it in him to be honesnt.
Aritro
International Regular
We should have been able to haul in 400 on this pitch to be honest. There's enough batting in this line-up to get to that total on one of the most placid pitches I can remember seeing in Bangladesh for a while.
The poor decision that removed Aftab, and Shakib's ill-considered shot have cost us. Both those players should have been able to stroll to half centuries the way Tamim, Mahmudullah and Mushfiq have.
I'm also cringing at the prospect of watchintg Kayes and Siddiqui face the short stuff again.
And Tredwell's catch has got to be an early contender for catch of the year.
The poor decision that removed Aftab, and Shakib's ill-considered shot have cost us. Both those players should have been able to stroll to half centuries the way Tamim, Mahmudullah and Mushfiq have.
I'm also cringing at the prospect of watchintg Kayes and Siddiqui face the short stuff again.
And Tredwell's catch has got to be an early contender for catch of the year.
Streetwise
Banned
Do you mean Aftabs poor decision or the umpires.
11.4 85.1 kph, what's happened here? Aftab goes for a cute little paddle sweep, the ball appeared to come off the glove, clip the thigh pad and loop up to Bell at short leg. It will be interesting to watch the replay of that one, as Aftab really wasn't happy with the decision and gave the umpire a long look when he was given out. Replays indicate the ball did brush the glove 51/3
Migara
International Coach
Can you be certain whom to blame?
Streetwise
Banned
Aritro
International Regular
Don't know which replays the fella writing the commentary saw because the ones they showed over and over seemed to indicate that it missed the glove.
Streetwise
Banned
Trouble with such close decisions there will always be two versions of what happened, I think the umpire is in a no win situation here because if he went the other way then Eng fans would be calling it a poor decision. I really think before calling it a poor decision you have to be certiain that the umpire made a mistake than just seemed to have.
Aritro
International Regular
I was fairly certain from the replay that it missed the glove and hit the pad, as were the TV commentators who were on at the time. No idea what the Cricinfo bloke is talking about tbh
Either way, before someone inevitably points it out, England got a pretty dire decision in their innings as well so it's evened itself out. Just wish Aftab had have been able to cash in on this highway of a pitch is all.