*Official* Zimbabwe in West Indies

[TT Boy]

Stuart Matsikenyeri.

Only Hamilton and Taibu deserve selection.

 

[Beamer]

I think this shows that the pitches have brought the two sides closer together than they actually are. The first hint of seam movement and slight carry and the Zimbabweans are all over the place.

I think they have some good things to work with but they have got to find some seam bowlers from somewhere or they simply cannot re-enter test cricket.

 

[WindieWeathers]

i did say we'd have a spell where they would see the real WI stand up, i'm not counting my chickens yet though because knowing our lot we'll still find a way to mess it up.

 

[shivfan]

does anybody know when taylor and edwards will be back for west indies?.

Edwards is probably out for the rest of the year....

Taylor's recurring injury is just puzzling.

What a catch by Gayle!

 

[WindieWeathers]

Zimbabwe are getting ripped apart here!!!.. Gibson's influence is already taking effect!!

 

[shivfan]

Zimbabwe are getting ripped apart here!!!.. Gibson's influence is already taking effect!!

I must say, I questioned Gibson's wisdom in dropping Benn, and playing Rampaul, but seam certainly has worked on this pitch!

The only question I now have for Gibson is playing Ramdin at four instead of Deo. I think that was an error....

 

[WindieWeathers]

I must say, I questioned Gibson's wisdom in dropping Benn, and playing Rampaul, but seam certainly has worked on this pitch!

The only question I now have for Gibson is playing Ramdin at four instead of Deo. I think that was an error....

I agree Mike it was a stupid error, but i think they just wanted to test out his batting under less pressure in the middle order, where he could maybe build an innings, but yet again he was poor man, i really think we should look at Jahmar Hamilton or Shane Dowrich, they can't do any worse with the bat and they are very good with the gloves already, not happy with Rampaul either, i think we should try someone else like Holder in the last odi if we've won the series already.

 

[roseboy64]

Taylor is a chance of playing against South Africa. He's doing fitness work ATM.

 

[GotSpin]

How did Roach bowl. I noticed he picked up three again

 

[shivfan]

How did Roach bowl. I noticed he picked up three again

Roach bowled well, as did Sammy and Bravo....

As for Dowrich, he wasn't that productive with the bat. I believe Baugh's average for the season was twice his. The Jamaican is the only wickie who's acquitted himself with the bat, aside from Ramdin, this season. Hamilton is a possibility, because he batted well in the three matches he played.

However, I believe wicketkeepers in particular need to play an entire domestic FC season before they're considered for WI duties. Let's look at Dowrich and Hamilton again next year this time....

 

[WindieWeathers]

Roach bowled well, as did Sammy and Bravo....

As for Dowrich, he wasn't that productive with the bat. I believe Baugh's average for the season was twice his. The Jamaican is the only wickie who's acquitted himself with the bat, aside from Ramdin, this season. Hamilton is a possibility, because he batted well in the three matches he played.

However, I believe wicketkeepers in particular need to play an entire domestic FC season before they're considered for WI duties. Let's look at Dowrich and Hamilton again next year this time....

I don't think we can afford to "wait another year" when it comes to the Wicketkeeper position Mike, there's A-team fixtures coming up and those are the games where we should judge imo, i hope Hamilton plays in those as i think in terms of talent he's the best of the lot, he can bat for hours and he's quick with the gloves.

 

[shivfan]

It's still early days yet, and I really do think Hamilton gets FC matches under his belt first....

We have to put things in perspective, IMHO. For quite a while after the retirement of Dujon, we had a string of keepers who were poor with the gloves, until Ridley Jacobs filled the role, a bit later in life than he should've have. Then, we went thru that merry-go-round again. Until we got Ramdin....

The fact of the matter is that Ramdin is a safe pair of hands, and that's his day job. We need to see if there's another keeper out there who can keep as well as him, and do more with the bat. It's pointless getting a keeper who can do more with the bat, and is rubbish with the gloves!

Both teams are unchanged for this match....

 

[Furball]

It's still early days yet, and I really do think Hamilton gets FC matches under his belt first....

We have to put things in perspective, IMHO. For quite a while after the retirement of Dujon, we had a string of keepers who were poor with the gloves, until Ridley Jacobs filled the role, a bit later in life than he should've have. Then, we went thru that merry-go-round again. Until we got Ramdin....

The fact of the matter is that Ramdin is a safe pair of hands, and that's his day job. We need to see if there's another keeper out there who can keep as well as him, and do more with the bat. It's pointless getting a keeper who can do more with the bat, and is rubbish with the gloves!

Both teams are unchanged for this match....

With Dwayne Bravo and Jerome Taylor batting either side of him, do you really need Ramdin to be that good with the bat?

Talking Tests here.

 

[shivfan]

For Tests, I would argue for Ramdin to be dropped down to eight....

That said, maybe for ODIs there is a need to find another keeper who can score runs. Maybe Baugh....

Rampaul gets Mazakadza for a duck....

 

[Stapel]

Ramdin averages 23 in Tests. Mark Boucher, just to name a Test wicket keeper with a solid place in a top side, averages 30. I know Prior, Haddin and Dhoni average around 40. But my point is that crying for Ramdin to make a dozen runs more in a test innings, is not worth it.

In ODIs, things might be a bit different.

 

[shivfan]

Ramdin averages 23 in Tests. Mark Boucher, just to name a Test wicket keeper with a solid place in a top side, averages 30. I know Prior, Haddin and Dhoni average around 40. But my point is that crying for Ramdin to make a dozen runs more in a test innings, is not worth it.

In ODIs, things might be a bit different.

I totally agree....

Bravo took a four-fer to bowl Zimbabwe out for just 141.

Gayle entertained with a quickfire 32, but now Chanderpaul is out for two, and it's 51-2 now....

 

[WindieWeathers]

For Tests, I would argue for Ramdin to be dropped down to eight....

That said, maybe for ODIs there is a need to find another keeper who can score runs. Maybe Baugh....

Rampaul gets Mazakadza for a duck....

Why are people talking about Baugh as an alternative? the guy is garbage man, if the selectors have any sense they'll be giving Jahmar Hamilton, Shane Dowrich and Devon Thomas some experience, if we win this match today i want to see one of these play on sunday, it's time to have a look at some other talent, i'd like to see Holder and Brathwaite get a run too, Gibson is putting on a bowling clinic after this series and is expected to call up many young bowlers so that should be interesting.

 

[WindieWeathers]

It's still early days yet, and I really do think Hamilton gets FC matches under his belt first....

We have to put things in perspective, IMHO. For quite a while after the retirement of Dujon, we had a string of keepers who were poor with the gloves, until Ridley Jacobs filled the role, a bit later in life than he should've have. Then, we went thru that merry-go-round again. Until we got Ramdin....

The fact of the matter is that Ramdin is a safe pair of hands, and that's his day job. We need to see if there's another keeper out there who can keep as well as him, and do more with the bat. It's pointless getting a keeper who can do more with the bat, and is rubbish with the gloves!

Both teams are unchanged for this match....

Well that's why i'm bigging up Hamilton because he's actually very good with the gloves, he played the same amount of FC games as Ramdin this season and got the same amount of catches, as i said before he's also got experience in the English system so he's no fool.

 

[shivfan]

If you're looking for a replacement keeper for Ramdin in ODIs, Baugh is the only candidate, based on the domestic season this year....

I don't see a challenger for Ramdin in Test cricket from this domestic season.

Hamilton is too inexperienced. he needs more FC cricket under his belt.

What an irresponsible shot by Bravo!

Five wickets down now....

They're making heavy weather of this chase.

 

[WindieWeathers]

If you're looking for a replacement keeper for Ramdin in ODIs, Baugh is the only candidate, based on the domestic season this year....

I don't see a challenger for Ramdin in Test cricket from this domestic season.

Hamilton is too inexperienced. he needs more FC cricket under his belt.

What an irresponsible shot by Bravo!

Five wickets down now....

They're making heavy weather of this chase.

You know it's funny Mike how you and others run down the quality of our domestic cricket but yet you're very quick to say our youngsters need "more experience" in the very same domestic system you've disparaged?!!!.. it doesn't add up to me, Baugh wasn't all that impressive last season imo, he only got 3 more catches and 99 more runs than Hamilton despite playing three more matches (six innings) more, Baugh had his chance and failed miserably, it's time to embrace the future imo and go for Hamilton or Dowrich, hopefully they'll do well in the A-team and give Gibson something to think about, Ramdin yet again was garbage with the bat today.

If we aren't gonna look at the youngsters then i'd look at Chadwick Walton to be honest, at least he's decent with the gloves and knows how to bat, plus he's already got international experience with WI.