India: Deserved of No. 1?

[Shri]

Pratters, Sanz, your mod applications are rejected.

 

[Sanz]

Another thing I would like to point out to Sanz, Ian Chappell said it. So what the ****. Read Amit Varma's post in the blog post you linked to. As Amit says, and I said, Tendulkar has the right to decide when to retire not you or I. READ FFS.

Exactly, so what Chappelli said so. I don't see the big deal. It was a relevant point (IMO) when he raised it and he said what was in his mind, like all of us do. He didn't force or take away Tendulkar's right to retire. That his article is being brought after 3 years to ridicule him is quite ridiculous, IMO.

And I won't kiss the feet of Ian Chappell just because he gets paid to write on cricket. Ian Healy gets paid to comment on cricket but guess what, even you make more sense about the game than Healy. Again, Heh.

If you are going to compare Ian Healy with Ian Chappell then I guess I have nothing much to say.

 

[Sir Alex]

Everyone has the right to say what he feels about another as long as it is not abuse. Chappell did that and he is entitled to his opinion. But at the same time he has the obligation too of having to face the consequences if he was off the mark. Here Chappelli was embarassasingly off mark and hence isgetting the mickey from Tendulkar fans, rightly deserved.

 

[Sanz]

You have not countered my core point at all. Instead have resort to name calling. Play the argument, not the poster.

http://www.cricketweb.net/forum/2168538-post342.html

 

[Sanz]

Everyone has the right to say what he feels about another as long as it is not abuse. Chappell did that and he is entitled to his opinion. But at the same time he has the obligation too of having to face the consequences if he was off the mark. Here Chappelli was embarassasingly off mark and hence isgetting the mickey from Tendulkar fans, rightly deserved.

Well in that case Pratters should get the mickey too for calling Tendulkar a 'Choker' after he scored 175.

And IMO (as a Tendulkar fan) Chappelli was not off the mark when the statement was made.

 

[Pratters]

No one has a right to say when a player should retire. You are saying some thing entirely opposite of what I am saying.

Also, saying don't link whore is not insulting you. It means don't keep posting links which is comparable to the act of whoring. Note, I am not calling you a whore. There is a key difference.

READ posts, READ Amit's post. For crying out loud. Sheesh..

 

[Pratters]

Well in that case Pratters should get the mickey too for calling Tendulkar a 'Choker' after he scored 175.

He choked AFTER he scored 175 IMO. You can't just accept some one can differ with you. You are constantly attacking me regarding the choking. Shut the **** up.

 

[Pratters]

(as a Tendulkar fan)

Yeah you are a Tendulkar fan. The same person who says Tendulkar is selfish, money minded, is a choker and cannot play an inning under pressure. You have said all of that. And you are still a Tendulkar fan. Right. .

 

[Pratters]

http://www.cricketweb.net/forum/2168538-post342.html

Don't just keep posting links (which is called link whoring, see I am not insulting you).

 

[Sir Alex]

Well in that case Pratters should get the mickey too for calling Tendulkar a 'Choker' after he scored 175.

And IMO (as a Tendulkar fan) Chappelli was not off the mark when the statement was made.

I am not here to judge what Pratters said because I haven't noticed the remark that Pratters made about Tendulkar.

But Ian Chappell's statement was not something that could be "justified" as at a particular point in time but only in retrospect. Had Tendulkar continued to flop even after Ian made that statement, nobody would make a fuss about it. It is obvious Ian was not commentating on Tendulkar as on that day but what Tendulkar will also CONTINUE to be after that. He opined that Tendulkar would continue to be in the team just to prolong his career or to break some inconsequential records and such continuance wouldn't be in the best interests of the team. That is what he is now facing the flak for.

 

[Pratters]

Here's what Amit thought:

Ian Chappell thinks Sachin Tendulkar should retire. Sigh. Such comments will fly back and forth in the next few days. I hope Sunil Gavaskar will be in the thick of it, just for fun.

In my view, there are only two questions that need to be asked as far as Tendulkar’s retirement is concerned:

1. Is he still good enough to be in the Indian side?

2. Does he have the desire to play international cricket?

As long as the answers to both these questions are “yes”—and I believe they are at the moment—I don’t see why Tendulkar should retire. Comparing him to Brian Lara, as Chappell does, is pointless. Comparing him to his own past self, as Chappell also does, is equally pointless. If he’s good enough to be in the current side and wants to play, he should carry on.

If only Sachin’s brother would now write a piece on Greg Chappell. Fun, no?

 

[Pratters]

If you are going to compare Ian Healy with Ian Chappell then I guess I have nothing much to say.

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH.

z

 

[Pratters]

Again, who cares If you know Amit Varma or not, It is not about you or him. Amit's blog link was posted because a discussion took place on his blog about the comments Ian Chappell made.

I don't have to take your word on Public perception, I read enough to know what public perception is and those blogs, IMO, reflect it to the T.

Yeah right. Internet blogs reflect public perception. If the internet is to be believed, Snakes on a Plane would have broken Avatar's record in the real world with the hype it generated on the internet. The internet does not reflect the real world. I am not telling you to judge public perception based on some thing. You are telling me to judge it based on blogs. Why the **** should I? I can determine my own mind.

 

[Pratters]

Pratters, Sanz, your mod applications are rejected.

I applied to be a mod last time and would love to be a mod. I try to follow forum rules by the letter and don't think have ever broken any forum rule. Don't see why I shouldn't be considered for a mod if a vacancy arises.

 

[marc71178]

To be fair, this thread has examples to the contrary.

 

[Sanz]

Yeah you are a Tendulkar fan. The same person who says Tendulkar is selfish, money minded, is a choker and cannot play an inning under pressure. You have said all of that. And you are still a Tendulkar fan. Right. .

Yes, I am. You don't decide If I am a fan of Tendulkar's batting esp when you yourself have called him a choker.

 

[Pratters]

I called the way one inning ended a choke. I am not calling him a choker characteristically. That's what you have done in the past multiple times with 'choker chokes again' posts.

 

[Pratters]

To be fair, this thread has examples to the contrary.

Don't make accusations without proof.

 

[Pratters]

http://www.cricketweb.net/forum/cricket-chat/15384-official-sri-lanka-india-50.html#post634998

 

[Sanz]

Yeah right. Internet blogs reflect public perception.

Ofcourse they do, It may not be a majority perception, but definitely perception of those that write in there. And the comments in those two blogs definitely and strongly represent the points raised by Chappelli.

You yourself have a blog. Are you saying that the points you write about aren't your thoughts and the people who comment on them aren't their own thoughts ?

If the internet is to be believed, Snakes on a Plane would have broken Avatar's record in the real world with the hype it generated on the internet. The internet does not reflect the real world.

What do you mean it does not represent the real world ? If it doesn't really represent the real world then what are you arguing about ? Ian Chappell posted his comment on the Freaking INTERNET.