John Howard to head ICC?

[Burgey]

Probably already been said by some political tragic on this thread, but John Anderson was always second fiddle to Howard anyways...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Anderson_(Australian_politician)

 

[howardj]

Best Prime Ministerial cricketing moment was when Bob Hawke got socked in the glasses by a bouncer when playing in a Press v Pollies match in the 1980s.

 

[Son Of Coco]

Not sure if Howard's tactics were rascist, as such; more xenophobic, playing on the fear of the unknown. I don't think that makes them any better, BTW.

Yeah, he borrowed Bush's fear tactics.

 

[Top_Cat]

Not sure if Howard's tactics were rascist, as such; more xenophobic, playing on the fear of the unknown. I don't think that makes them any better, BTW.

That's the art, though; can't have people being absolutely sure of what you think or there's no wiggle room.

 

[GotSpin]

You completely ignored what I said the post after I told everyone to cut it out.....

Any more and we'll have to start warning people or taking harsher action.

Yeah I should just roll over and do nothing while he personally attacks me.

 

[vic_orthdox]

This place lacks a mod with iron balls. Before anyone asks, no, I am not interested.

You won't iron my balls?

 

[Bracken]

Yeah, he borrowed Bush's fear tactics.

Howard was doing it long before he knew anything of Bush. He did the exact same thing in the 1980s with the supposed hordes of Vietnamese boat people.

Howard has used the spectre of the evil boat people as a political tactic for as long as I can remember. It is simply part of his base political strategy.

 

[andyc]

You won't iron my balls?

 

[Shri]

You won't iron my balls?

Not if you have grown another mini afro there. Yuk.

 

[slippyslip]

or rather, the amount of power he once held which simply has nothing to do it. Presumably.he has been nominated based upon his political skills, not the control of power he once had.

So who gets the head of the ICC should be based upon who is the most Machiavellian and scheming politician? Do we really want politicians screwing cricket by playing politics instead of administrating? Even Howard's own party members called him a rat, albeit a cunning rat. His nickname in Canberra was "Honest John" which was obviously an ironic nickname.

If Howard had a real background in cricket, something more than going to the occasional game then he could be considered. But since he doesn't why not make Bob Hawke the head of the ICC? At least when he bowled the ball reached the other end.

But anyway some people in this thread have suggested that because Howard ran a whole country he was qualified to head the ICC. Which is extremely ignorant.

 

[slippyslip]

Howard was doing it long before he knew anything of Bush. He did the exact same thing in the 1980s with the supposed hordes of Vietnamese boat people.

Howard has used the spectre of the evil boat people as a political tactic for as long as I can remember. It is simply part of his base political strategy.

Valid points but Howard lost the 1987 election badly. His comments about Asians were a lot more crude and politically naive than his actions as PM. Howard learnt from his mistakes.

I dont recall immigration, muslims or boat people a huge, election changing issue. Obviously is was an issue but for the first half of 2001 Beazley and the ALP were well ahead in the polls.

It wasn't until the Tampa incident in August 2001 that is became a hot topic. Then came Sept 11, children overboard and Howard knew he was onto a winner.

Which is why a politician like Howard should never be given the position he has.

 

[howardj]

Dream on.

I think the Aston by-election predated all those so-called 2001 turning points.

 

[GotSpin]

So who gets the head of the ICC should be based upon who is the most Machiavellian and scheming politician? Do we really want politicians screwing cricket by playing politics instead of administrating? Even Howard's own party members called him a rat, albeit a cunning rat. His nickname in Canberra was "Honest John" which was obviously an ironic nickname.

If Howard had a real background in cricket, something more than going to the occasional game then he could be considered. But since he doesn't why not make Bob Hawke the head of the ICC? At least when he bowled the ball reached the other end.

But anyway some people in this thread have suggested that because Howard ran a whole country he was qualified to head the ICC. Which is extremely ignorant.

So you agree now that George W was a bad comparison. I'm not arguing for or against Howard being picked, and besides, I won't judge until I see him in action in 2012.

 

[silentstriker]

Yeah I should just roll over and do nothing while he personally attacks me.

Yes, pretty much. Report the post, and ignore it.

 

[vic_orthdox]

For me, with my brief look at things, its not that Howard doesn't have necessary qualifications. Its just that the New Zealand candidate had better quals.

 

[slippyslip]

Dream on.

I think the Aston by-election predated all those so-called 2001 turning points.

Still doesn't change the fact that Beazley and the ALP were well ahead of the polls before Tampa. As I said it was an issue but it wasn't an election defining it became are Tampa, 9/11 and Children Overboard. I remember seeing polls in early 2001 that were suggesting the Coalition were in for a smashing that year.

Yes, some electorates were more anti-immigration than others but having the extreme positions that Howard and the Coalition took post Tampa, 9/11, ie One Nation policies, at the time was unpalatable to a lot of the more blue ribbon electorates. Pauline didnt have a lot of support in places like Vaucluse or Neutral Bay or Toorak. Infact, she had more support in blue collar ALP electorates and semi-rural, and rural, electorates.

As I said the events leading up to the 2001 election changed that. It allowed the Coalition to have a tough stance on boat people and Muslims throughout the whole electorate.

 

[Johnners]

If you want to discuss Howard's election run in 2001, please take it to the Politics thread in OT fellas

 

[Anil]

And people who are bashing Howard on his policies, and I'm sure you're all right, but have you looked at Pawar's political career?

ICC needs someone with the proper financial and man management skills at the top who can be a good organizer. The ICC cheif has almost no power, so it doesn't really matter.

this...

 

[Streetwise]

For me, with my brief look at things, its not that Howard doesn't have necessary qualifications. Its just that the New Zealand candidate had better quals.

IMO Howard has much better qualifications than Anderson.

 

[Craig]

Er no.