GotSpin
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Seems to be a few cricket articles floating around there
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*Official* South Africa in India
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Pratters
Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Always overjoyed to see some one put Sach at one.
nick-o
State 12th Man
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Shri
Mr. Glass
Always overjoyed to see some one put down Sach at one.Always overjoyed to see some one put Sach at one.
Hurrumph, all this bickering over #1 seems to have overshadowed what was a couple of great adverts for test cricket.
The BCCI really should pull it's head out of it's behind and schedule test matches regularly at Eden Gardens, I'd love to go to a test there one day. At the same time they should banish Nagpur, why go there to watch Tendy, Steyn, et al light up an empty concrete bowl?
Anyway well done to India, they're #1 for now, lets see how long they can hold it.
The BCCI really should pull it's head out of it's behind and schedule test matches regularly at Eden Gardens, I'd love to go to a test there one day. At the same time they should banish Nagpur, why go there to watch Tendy, Steyn, et al light up an empty concrete bowl?
Anyway well done to India, they're #1 for now, lets see how long they can hold it.
Cevno
Hall of Fame Member
Isn't Sawai man singh in Jaipur a approved test ground after renovation,why not play tests there?
I aM sure being in the city ,it will get bigger crowds.
Nagpur used to provide decent crowds at old VCA stadium,but this new VCA stadium is located out of the city which makes it very difficult to get large crowds.Similar to the new Hyderabad stadium and to a certain extent true about Mohali too.
I think if you want larger crowds , starting tests in smaller centres would not be a bad idea.Such places are starved of international cricket and thus would not miss the oppurtunity to witness International test cricket.
I aM sure being in the city ,it will get bigger crowds.
Nagpur used to provide decent crowds at old VCA stadium,but this new VCA stadium is located out of the city which makes it very difficult to get large crowds.Similar to the new Hyderabad stadium and to a certain extent true about Mohali too.
I think if you want larger crowds , starting tests in smaller centres would not be a bad idea.Such places are starved of international cricket and thus would not miss the oppurtunity to witness International test cricket.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Hmm, I don't know what the Test market would be in a place like Vadodara. It'd be interesting to find out, but frankly, BCCI don't make it easy to attend. Tickets aren't sold online as far as I can tell, refunds are almost non existant, and the facilities are subpar (not all stadiums, and I am only going by hearsay on most Indian stadiums).
But if a Test cricket fanatic like me would think twice about going to a Test match in some of those places, what about the mediocre fan?
But if a Test cricket fanatic like me would think twice about going to a Test match in some of those places, what about the mediocre fan?
Cevno
Hall of Fame Member
I think the market for Test cricket in smaller centres where there is lesser cricket would be good.Some of these grounds even provide a decent crowds for Ranji games in which a big name is playing.
To be fair to the BCCI,the tickets are now on most occasions available on the net(though not easily as they should be) and the facilities are being improved at most of the grounds.Some of the grounds are becoming state of the art too.Specially newly built ones.Though they may be a bit out of the city due to lack of spaces.
Earlier Local corporations used to own and mantain the grounds,but now the state associations are beginning to own them ,and With special BCCI funding and private sector deals ,they have enough cash to improve facilities.And slowly ,but steadily they are doing so.(Many are building new stadiums ).
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Cevno
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Nagpur, Mohali and Ahmedabad-These were the stadiums mentioned as being removed from the test match lists ,in the above post.The problem with all the three stadiums,though all are recently built and have modern facilities is ,that they are all located outside each of the cities.
For ODI's there is enough interest to draw the crowds to these stadiums for one day.But with tests being spread out in 5 days the crowd gets divided and with 5 day passes coming into effect,people do not have enough time to travel in and out of the cities every day.
But shifting out of the city is somehting which had to be done ,to provide all modern facilities which were criticised earlier by everyone.
For ODI's there is enough interest to draw the crowds to these stadiums for one day.But with tests being spread out in 5 days the crowd gets divided and with 5 day passes coming into effect,people do not have enough time to travel in and out of the cities every day.
But shifting out of the city is somehting which had to be done ,to provide all modern facilities which were criticised earlier by everyone.
chicane
State Captain
Mohali stadium is well within the city, and within easy commuting distance from Chandigarh too. Well maintained and reasonably modern stadium.
marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
To be honest, yes - regardless of how much on top the side were, if they hadn't managed to take the last wicket then they wouldn't have won the game, so it was a very tight finish.
Cevno
Hall of Fame Member
Mohali (Punjabi: ਮੋਹਾਲੀ, Hindi: मोहाली, mōhālī) is a city adjacent to Chandigarh, 18th District in Punjab, India.
Mohali - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It is a not in chandigarh main city like the sector 16 stadium.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
It was a tight finish.. But how the hell does it reflect on the ability of India or South Africa? It is simply a reflection of the weather conditions.
This series was quite interesting and instructive. The faults and strengths of both teams are there for all of us to see and the series (probably correctly) ends at 1-1 on India's home turf.
South Africa's weaknesses are an uneven, inconsistent batting lineup which seems to rely far too much on a few in-form players (Amla, Kallis, etc.). I'll reserve judgement on Petersen until I see more of him. Dale Steyn, whilst world-class, also seems to lack backup. Harris is adept at tying up an end, but not much else, whilst Morkel, Parnell, McLaren, etc. are inconsistent or unproven.
India's weaknesses are a reliance on top-class pros who are nearing retirement (Dravid, Laxman, Tendulkar etc.), plus the current brilliance of Sehwag. Harbhajan at present (despite typically doing well in Calcutta) + Mishra are also not a patch on early-2000's Harbhajan + Kumble. Most disturbingly, there is little beyond these two. There is a similar problem with the pace stocks - beyond Khan and maybe Sreesanth (both of whom are merely good at best), there appears to be a void filled with unfulfilled promise. India's future will be very interesting, to say the least. Dhoni's captaincy abilities will, I feel, be truly defined in those times, not during these times of relative plenty.
South Africa's weaknesses are an uneven, inconsistent batting lineup which seems to rely far too much on a few in-form players (Amla, Kallis, etc.). I'll reserve judgement on Petersen until I see more of him. Dale Steyn, whilst world-class, also seems to lack backup. Harris is adept at tying up an end, but not much else, whilst Morkel, Parnell, McLaren, etc. are inconsistent or unproven.
India's weaknesses are a reliance on top-class pros who are nearing retirement (Dravid, Laxman, Tendulkar etc.), plus the current brilliance of Sehwag. Harbhajan at present (despite typically doing well in Calcutta) + Mishra are also not a patch on early-2000's Harbhajan + Kumble. Most disturbingly, there is little beyond these two. There is a similar problem with the pace stocks - beyond Khan and maybe Sreesanth (both of whom are merely good at best), there appears to be a void filled with unfulfilled promise. India's future will be very interesting, to say the least. Dhoni's captaincy abilities will, I feel, be truly defined in those times, not during these times of relative plenty.
CricAddict
Cricketer Of The Year
I don't think batting is a problem.With Sehwag, Gambhir and Dhoni around, the Rohits Kohlis and Rainas would flourish with time.
But yeah bowling wise, it would be great if Ishant, Sreesanth and Irfan improve drastically. Else the No 1 position would be too tough to retain.
But yeah bowling wise, it would be great if Ishant, Sreesanth and Irfan improve drastically. Else the No 1 position would be too tough to retain.
chicane
State Captain
Chandigarh, Mohali and Panchkula are all adjacent and can be considered one urban area. Even put together it makes for a small city, the longest commute not more than an hour long. There's no issue with the stadium being in Mohali and not Chandigarh.
marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
I wasn't reading his comments as reflecting on the abilities of the 2 sides to be honest - just that it was a tight finish (although had SA escaped with a draw it would IMO be fair to cast a few aspersions on the Indian bowling attack (seeing how long they had to get the last 3 wickets)
Uppercut
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C'mon guys, the implication that the average of the batsman is a constant was so obvious that it shouldn't have been necessary to point it out. You're just shifting the argument to "scoring more runs is better than scoring less runs".
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
You guys are not considering that effect it has on the field settings, and the bowlers either - that helps all the other batsmen in the team. If you watch what happens to the other team when Sehwag scores a quick 50 or century, it's easy to see - compared to when a Dravid scores a century. It's one of the reasons Viv Richards was almost universally rated as a much tougher batsman to bowl to than someone like Boycott.